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January 25, 2005 at 6:50 pm #660668
Anonymous
InactiveThis is the sales pitch:
POKER CASINO AFFILIATE SITE ESTABLISHED- UP FOR GRABS
The poor sucker who buys it thinks he will own Sharetherake.
January 25, 2005 at 9:57 pm #660676Anonymous
InactiveIt clearly states sharetherake.NET <
unless sharetherake.com has been trademarked or servicemarked – then this boils down to what we see every day in this industry!As long as the .net is not representing itself as the .com then I see nothing wrong with this. In fact as long as they dont do that then every webmaster they acquire is a plus for the .com not a minus!
Sure the title might sound a bit misleading, but the description is not so as Lou stated if the worse they could be guilty of is taking advantage of a fool. Unethical? I guess to some extent it is, but nothing criminal.
January 25, 2005 at 10:27 pm #660679Anonymous
InactiveYes, but the ebay bidder is led to believe that sharetherake.net is an established poker casino affiliate site.
It is not. It is a mirror of sharetherake.com . Sharetherake.com is an affiliate site, the .net is a copy of it. Breach of copyright as far as sharetherake is concerned, and fraud as far as the ebay bidder is concerned.
January 25, 2005 at 11:23 pm #660683Anonymous
InactiveThe starting bid is only $250. I can’t see anywhere where it says the reserve price is $10k – Only that you can buy it straight away for $10k. I only hope the buyer is not some poor sucker thinking he’ll own the affiliate program.
I think all affiliate programs should have problems with others copying their sites. If anyone accidently typed wagerprofit.com and tried to logon… The logon details will be stolen.
January 26, 2005 at 2:56 am #660697Anonymous
GuestFirst off.
Devendra,
We were working on an email to you but I thought I would throw it out to the community for feedback before I sent anything. After consideration we thought there was no harm in what you are doing.
I have some concern about the Ebay thing only because I would hate for the person who got stiffed coming to me asking where his affiliate site is and getting caught in the middle of that. However, maybe there is a way to grab some free publicity from that.
Thanks for everyone’s comments on this. I’m still waiting to hear back from Casino Blasters about this one too: http://www.sci-ficasino.com/January 26, 2005 at 3:52 am #660699Anonymous
Inactiveahhh theres casinoblasters … :woo-hoo: Hope everything works out for you Jeff.
… that vacation is past due
January 26, 2005 at 3:38 pm #660710Anonymous
InactiveMaybe you ought to do a press release regarding the ebay sale.
Cover your derrriere and get publicity out of it.
Re. blasters – are you having trouble reaching Fred?
January 26, 2005 at 3:59 pm #660713Anonymous
GuestI PMed him. If you direct contact with him, please let him know to contact me.
ThanksJanuary 26, 2005 at 4:42 pm #660715Anonymous
InactiveQuote:What does sharetherake.net offer?Sharetherake offers websites and their designers, a chance to become an affiliate. Affiliates may display banners linked by an affiliate code on their website. When traffic from an affiliate’s website click on a banner, download, deposit and play, the refering website earns upto 40% of the rake.
By owning sharetherake.net you will be able to do this to, earn upto 40% of the rake by refering poker players. Also you will get a second level 20% of the commissions earned by their referred affiliates!
How much will this cost me to run?
Your total costs are $8.95 per year to keep the domain “sharetherake.net” registered in your name.
You may increase your profits by advertising in ppc (pay per click) search engines, paying for banner impressions, paid listings, and that sort of thing. This will put the cost of running the site up, and the site will return you more profit!
How much will I earn from owning sharetherake.net?
20% of the commissions earned by their referred affiliates
How will I get paid?
You will get paid once per month. You will be able to select your payment method.
Neteller – no fee
PrePaid ATM – no fee
poker room Account – no fee
Money transfers – free over $500
Check (US only) – free but $100 minimumWill I have to pay affiliates?
Affiliates that you sign up will get paid automatically, you will not be responsable for paying them. You only need to find them, everything else is taken care of for you.
Is this a full-time commitment?
No. You can work as many hour as you please. As with any website the more you put in, the more you will get out.
BONUS
We will work in conjuction with you, to make a press release regarding the sale of “sharetherake.net”. This release will mention the benefits of joining sharetherake.net to webmasters and of course encourage them to come and join.
Press release distribution costs anywhere between $275 to $500 for a one-time broadcast!
AND:
Quote:ShareTheRake.com was created to provide a single access point for webmasters to promote some of the best online poker rooms available. Currently ShareTheRake.com represents SuperiorPoker.com with more great brands expected to be added shortly.January 28, 2005 at 12:24 am #660776Anonymous
GuestOK, I haven’t gotten any response from anyone who represents GP and it’s time to settle this.
Whois for sci-ficasino.com:Registrant:
Atlas Services Inc (SCI-FICASINO-DOM)
St.Mary’s St
P.O. Box W1096
St. John’s 99999
AGDomain Name: SCI-FICASINO.COM
Administrative Contact, Technical Contact:
Registrar, Services (20565222I) [email protected]
Atlas Services Inc
St. Mary’s St.
P.O. Box W1096
St. John’s 99999
AG
866-225-6915 fax: 123 123 1234Record expires on 25-Jan-2007.
Record created on 25-Jan-1999.
Database last updated on 27-Jan-2005 19:22:39 EST.Domain servers in listed order:
NS.INETFAST.COM 66.212.234.129
NS2.INETFAST.COM 66.212.234.130Whois for GP:
Registrant:
Universal Spheres Inc (GOLDENPALACE11-DOM)
Factory Rd.
P.O. Box W1094
St. John’s
AGDomain Name: GOLDENPALACE.COM
Administrative Contact, Technical Contact:
Domains, Manager (RNUKYHTPCI) [email protected]
Universal Spheres Inc
Factory Rd.
P.O. Box W1094
St. John’s 34521
AG
866-225-6915 fax: 123 123 1234Record expires on 23-Dec-2007.
Record created on 23-Dec-1998.
Database last updated on 27-Jan-2005 19:23:27 EST.Domain servers in listed order:
NS.INETFAST.COM 66.212.234.129
NS2.INETFAST.COM 66.212.234.130Can someone who represents GP contact me please to discuss this issue.
ThanksJanuary 28, 2005 at 12:49 am #660778Anonymous
InactiveTheir domain SCI-FICASINO.COM registered on 1999 and your domain Sci-Fi-Casino.Com registered on 2001 and that may make you difficult to deal with them. As that could interpret as they have the right/run the bussiness under the name earlier than you do.
January 28, 2005 at 9:30 am #660784Anonymous
Guestif that’s the case, then I doubt you have a leg to stand on Jeff.
what I find most interesting however, is that they chose the .net over the .com when surely both were available at the time they bought, being two years sooner and all.
January 28, 2005 at 3:34 pm #660789Anonymous
InactiveThat is odd. What was the .com doing at the time? Was it taken by someone else?
January 28, 2005 at 7:05 pm #660796Anonymous
InactiveI think there are now two separate discussions of two separate domains going on.
The .net domain that is being referred to is for sharetherake.
The .com domain that is being referred to is the sci-ficasino.com–unless I’ve misread the earlier posts, that’s the one that was registered in 1999.
Feel free to correct me if I’ve mis-read the earlier posts.
January 28, 2005 at 7:18 pm #660799Anonymous
InactiveI don’t think the sequence of registration matters so much as whether there is trademark infringement. If there is trading on the name of a trademarked brand then you would have a case to get the domain transferred.
However, I went to http://www.sci-fi-casino.com/about.asp and it is not obvious that you have trademarked the name.
My limited experience of these situations has been that most people don’t want any hassle and just settle these things. But a low-key approach works best!
Casinoblasters has a toll free number and the team are super responsive so I guess they are at ICE.
If you want to get aggressive about this use reverse ip look up at whois.sc and check out other casino operators…e.g. I can see all 40 domains on the sci-fi server…If you do the same on some other operator servers it is quite amusing to see what domains they have registered.
Devendra
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