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that is always bad, but i have an issue with the email posted lol.
If the casino allows the bonus abuse as started, they need to correct thier bonus! as well that is pretty much an open cash machine they are running. Second if there is a way to “cheat” on roulette then they need to look at that lol. Now I want to read this e-book.
If the player complies with the terms and conditions for receiving a bonus as well as the rules for cashing out a bonus i don’t see how this can possibly be referred to as “fraud”. Bonus hunting has absolutly nothing to do with fraud.
With regards to the casino’s problems above, I can’t understand that they allow this kind of bonus hunting to go on. How hard can it be to write in the terms and conditions for the singn-up bonus that no amount -deposit as well as bonus money can not be cash out untill the minimum wagering requirements have been fulfilled by the player? Write that in the terms for the bonus and the problem is solved, NO ?.
Bonus hunting is and will always be a part of online gambling – from a casino perspective I would deal with that instead of whining about it. It’s not going to go away.
Casinos want’s the players money – the players want the casinos money. That’s the nature of the business. It’s not a donation from the player to the casino.
Obviously an affiliate catering to bonus hunters as in the example above won’t see much value of their work from a revenue share point of view. If such an affiliate should receive any CPA payment should be easy to determain by reading the terms and conditions for the CPA agreement, NO?
I don’t see any problems that can not be solved by writing down what is expected from the player for them to be able to get a bonus and cash it out. Similar write down what is expected from an affiliate to get paid on CPA basis.
Don’t go for the easy “we will decide later if we will pay you” terms and conditions. If you can’t figure out how to write terms and conditions for bonuses and CPA deal – hire an expirianced bonus hunter to help you out and/or hire a CPA affiliate who caters to bonus hunters to help you out.
I am in no way saying that this is a great situation. I try to promote other things then just the bonuses – there is much more to a casino then a bonus.
No point in complaining about bonus hunting -it’s a fact of life, it’s just like there is no point in me complaining about paying tax – I cant’ change that eighter.
when will casinos learn that running many of their current bonus offers won’t pull in the kind of players that are profitable over the long run.
I have always said… they can’t see the dollar for the dime in front of them.
its exactly true. as long as bonus offers have loop-holes that allow the casino to be taken advantage of …. it will happen.
what should be done …. and I’ve said this forever … is that money should be targeted towards rewarding players for quality play. Not for bringing in every dime-chasing freeloader on the net. because its going to happen everytime.
Prof said to me years ago… and was right. I’d make majority of my money off a handful of people. Take the freaking hint casinos!
because you casinos know better than anybody this is true.
Quality customer service …. a VIP list for starters that basically says.. hey if this person has a complaint and for instance … feels they were cheated on a $25 spin or the like …. give them the freakin’ money! right then…. no questions asked.
word of mouth is big. the really worthy players do talk. do appreciate being treated as they should be! bonus chasers also talk. probably more. you set yourself up for their scummy ways …. expect to reap the end results. and know they won’t be pretty.
its all about approach.
and affs that promote such ignorant approaches and then expect to get paid for it… get what they deserve.
Dom and I have both said for a long time……. you take CPA deals… there will always be a loser.
you affs will be the loser in the end. you might make some fast dough. but as soon as the casino program figures out what you’re doing …. you WILL NOT BE PAID!
its a lot smarter to just .. and these keys are almost worn out from my saying this ….. DO THE RIGHT THING! everybody wins.
This industry is suffering from people on the outside trying to destroy our business and the last thing we need is people from the inside destroying our business.
Affiliates who promote bonus hunter scams are drying the well they’re drinking from.
And it’s our job to do the right thing and set those affiliates straight before all of us will have to face an empty well.Affiliates – do the right thing !
All of us need to know that if we want to rip what we sow we need to get rid of all parasites.Sam DavidAffiliate manager@Jan 136302 wrote:
If the player complies with the terms and conditions for receiving a bonus as well as the rules for cashing out a bonus i don’t see how this can possibly be referred to as “fraud”. Bonus hunting has absolutly nothing to do with fraud.
Unless I’m reading it wrong, we’re talking about players cashing out their deposit immediately after receiving the bonus and continuing to play 100% risk free on the CASINOS money, not their own.
I don’t know of any casino doesn’t have a T&C in place to prevent them from doing this. In cases such as this, the affiliate shouldn’t be paid, and if the player wins on the bonus, the player should only receive their deposit back – not their winnings.
Whether or not the software is broken and allowing them to (yes, fraudulently) do this is totally irrelevant.
edit: I noticed in the other thread someone brought up “The casino should be happy for this affiliate finding the “bug””
I would agree with this except for the fact that they were exploiting it for their own personal gain.
