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Drakos sounds greeks to me. This is a different situation he was doing more than offering information, he was a bookie? greek39
That’s not entirely true
The fact that gambling911 would put in a positive plug for a place like betmaker.com makes them 100% uncredible
Mr. Drakos was operating a casino and taking action, here is the real story
There are a few other places giving the whole story, just did a search, still a disturbing story regardless
I don’t get the US government’s mentality, there are probably over 1000 online casino’s, a lot of those offshore places are owned by relocated Americans, so what are they trying to do exactly, wipeout online gambling, or just prevent their fellow Americans from making any money.
Here’s the real deal
These offshore books depend on US sports for survival, without the NBA and NFL, Miguel in Costa Rica goes back to pushing his donkey & cart, meanwhile, the US sports survival depends on the fans at home, the US citizens, nobody is gonna give Lebron James $100 million to dribble a ball in an empty schoolyard, now these same US citizens who took the games to the level they are at now by promoting and supporting them, are at risk of going to jail, it makes no sense, by promoting gambling you are promoting the game, thus generating more money for the home team, the US, and i have noticed that the biggest hypocrites are Las Vegas and New Jersey, as they are usually the first to go after those (like Gretzky) who are doing the exact same thing that they have been doing for years.
It seems as though greed is the motivator, they want to monopolize the market, which will be impossible unless they successfully complete their task of world domination, and so it is the little guy like me and everyone else here who must fend off the big bully, if only everyone could unite and put them in line, have them play the Super Bowl in an empty stadium with $0 bet on the game, wouldn’t that change their tune quick.
Although i don’t consider myself a racist or wish any ill upon the populas of the USA, i can’t help but secretly hope the government gets whacked, they are so damn irritating, the world would be a better place without their “ideas”
I’m gonna do something about it, don’t ask me what, because i have no idea, they are overstepping moral boundaries, this whole internet thing was designed so people would be able to share information easily, now they are monitoring my activity and limiting what i can and can’t do, not only are they invading my privacy, but they are limiting my intellectual growth and thwarting the natural process of evolution, it’s hammer time
I think there is a distinction between promoting and informing. Promoting I assume is something one does to encourage a sale. In contrast, providing information in regards to online gambling is an act of offering information to the public, to inform.
This is why I think the wording of some gambling sites have too be careful. Don’t promote but inform.
As for the U.S, although I do agree to a certain degree as being a wee bit ethnocentric ( figuring their values are the best and should be followed by other nations) is becoming a problem. We are seeing more of this everyday, more so over the last 10 years. I blame it one the current Government, and for sure there is a strong distaste for the U.S abroad.
Although I do not totally personally subscribe to this doctrine, I beleive it to be true. What ever happenned? I use to visit the U.S at least once a year, haven’t been there for the last ten. The resentment is growing in Canada as well, Canadians in general, are normally a very passive culture. greek39
nick777 wrote:… i have noticed that the biggest hypocrites are Las Vegas and New Jersey, as they are usually the first to go after those who are doing the exact same thing that they have been doing for years …As I said in a post on 9/24/04:
[QUOTE=LasVegasLady …
(condensed version of original post)]Las Vegas casinos control EVERYTHING and EVERYONE in the state of Nevada, as well as trying to gain control over all the other markets they have branched out into.
They want control of this market as well.
The land based U.S. casinos feel they should be the ones to oversee and control Internet gambling.
As soon as their lobbying pays off and they are able to convince the powers that be, then online gambling in the U.S. will cease to be offered through the offshore casinos. We will see Bellagio, Luxor, Treasure Island, Mandalay Bay, Harrah’s and all the other land based casinos offering online gambling.
Then the government will be able to tax it and everyone will be happy.
Well .. let me rephrase that last part .. NOT everyone will be happy .. affiliates will be screwed!
….Read the report carefully , The reporters are stupider then the people being caught.
Look at this statement from the report “The police found out that the online casinos site of Drakos was a place where bettors could log on or call to place their bets”
How the fuck can you call in a bet for a casino , it was a sports book 100% , The reporters are uninformed ,But you know what lets make it better for me. it was and affiliate so everyone close down your sites , More cash for me.
LasVegasLady wrote:As I said in a post on 9/24/04:Well .. let me rephrase that last part .. NOT everyone will be happy .. affiliates will be screwed!
….This I totally agree with. Mr.Drakos was a bookie taking peoples money for the purpose of placing bets, therefore quilty. greek39
damiandunlap wrote:I am selling everything
I dont want to go to jail:angry:Why will you go to jail? I think you are seriously over reacting here, running a portal will not get you locked up.
That is not good Damian. But I still cannot see how running a portal even if you reside in the US can be seen as breaking the law, as the law currently stands.
I could understand it, if you ran an online casino or a sportsbook and took bets however.
damiandunlap its a shame that you feel you have to sell off. Its’ obvious something went wrong, all that work gone? Thank god I’m up here in Canada. Just got some promotional shirts made up I plan on visiting the local land based casino and bet a few nickels. The whole shirt is one big banner with all the info of my site on it, should be interesting. Anyway sorry for your situation.
On the lighter side maybe you will make it on COP’s or Amreica’s most wanted.
greek39This is old news and Drakos was not your average affiliate.
To catch Drakos red handed, an undercover police officer set up an online casinos account at the site of Drakos, and in January 2004 they met in person to discuss the affiliate program of Drakos. The online casinos affiliate program was a system where one bettor gets money for attracting and recruiting other betters. On the spot, the undercover agent gave Drakos the money for the affiliate program and the online casinos affiliate program was set up on the spot.
Meeting with US citizens in person to take their money for gambling online is definitely over the line. I would never even consider that sort of relationship. I agree with greek that how you position your site is important. From day one, we decided that we needed to take the approach of informing rather than persuading. If you read through our site, it is all informational, we don’t try to pursuade people one way or another, just a presentation of facts for them to make their own playing decision.
Since this is becoming a more prevalant topic, with the Drakos case and the gambling prohibition bills floating around, you should be taking steps to make sure you are operating your affiliate site in a responsible manner (especially in the potential eyes of the law), For one, you should have terms and conditions on your site, we specifically state:
You are responsible for determining if it is legal for you to play any particular games or place any particular wager.
Other things that would be good, especially if you ever had to answer to the authorities, is to have a privacy policy, a link to gamblers anonymous and a site that doesn’t allow children (through your own internet content rating, which I think can be handled through meta tags, need to research that one myself).
The point is, if you are a responsible affiliate, you are much less likely to ever be in trouble. After all, online gambling is NOT illegal for all US citizens, that is why there are gambling prohibition bills in front of Congress. If it were a Federal offense, then they wouldn’t need a bill. However, some states do specifically ban their residents from gambling online. The good news for affiliates is that we have no way of knowing where in the world our gamblers come from since the affiliate programs don’t report that information (and I don’t want them too for this very reason).
damiandunlap wrote:Yes hate, brought this about. Pure hate
Sorry to hear about that Damian but it appears your situation is different, like someone is out to get you so they sicced the dogs on you and not some random fed investigation and Drakos was a bookie not an affiliate marketer so I don’t expect the door to come crashing down. Hope things turn out okay for you man!
