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November 11, 2003 at 7:06 am #641397
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InactiveYou’re being blocked by NIS 2003, so I assume NIS 2004 and/or NAV 2004 will also block you.
And if that’s not bad enough, NIS often tags legitimate emails as spam as well.
November 11, 2003 at 2:01 pm #641403Anonymous
InactiveThis has been going on for some time, and the affiliate industry in general suffers from it.
I don’t have Norton or any other adblockers, so can’t oblige….
November 11, 2003 at 2:16 pm #641404
vladcizsolMemberWelcome aboard Spear!:bigsmile:
Always good to see a friendly face turn up for a visit, don’t be a stranger. We appreciate your input on issues. :thumbsup:
November 11, 2003 at 3:23 pm #641410Anonymous
InactiveSpear, Thanks for taking the time to check my sites!
Too bad you had to be the bearer of bad news.
Well, has anyone managed to find a way around NIS’s blocking? Or do we just shrug our shoulders and hope for the best.
I don’t want to deliver ads to people who don’t want to see them, at least if they’re honestly not going to convert anyway, but these programs blocking the ads by default is a real problem.
Any ideas out there?
November 11, 2003 at 5:47 pm #641418Anonymous
InactiveAw Prof, you *know* I’ve been around…. but not since the redesign, which I must say is totally awesome

Blackjackinfo, there are no fixed ways around NIS – and since I haven’t got the latest pirated copy of NIS 2004
I can’t be certain what does work and what doesn’t.However, here is a tip which will work against NIS 2003 for 125×125 banners – not an elegant solution, but it works.
Simply do NOT specify the height (or the width) or the banner. Normally, I would decline to specify the height since leaving out the width can cause your website to temporarily stretch its width in a very ugly way LOL.
I am still trying to determine what works with 468×60 banners – so far, nothing I have tried works yet.
The other major thing to remember – make sure your links, as well as the links to the images, do NOT contain “ad” or any form thereof. There are probably other things to avoid , like maybe “banner” but as I haven’t had any other problems, I haven’t done any more testing.
Dom – in case you were wondering, I’ve known about this since before Amsterdam, but never got the chance to talk about it – and besides, I was still testing at the time.
McAfee’s Internet Suite (or whatever it’s called) also causes the same problems, as do a few different shareware programs. Worst of all, what may work against one program probably doesn’t work against the other.
But I can say that this could potentially be a very nasty problem in the months to come. With some programs, even TEXT ADS AND LINKS are stripped from your HTML.
Forget pop-up blockers – everyone’s already got them, and pop-ups are almost useless now. The bigger problem is that the bulk of advertising revenue that pays for most sites is now in jeopardy.
November 11, 2003 at 5:59 pm #641419Anonymous
InactiveI have been following this for some time too, Spear.
Here is a link to a very long thread about it:
http://abw.infopop.cc/6/ubb.x?a=tpc&s=548608979&f=106607689&m=6456051024
November 11, 2003 at 6:28 pm #641422Anonymous
InactiveSeptember?
Amsterdam was in April… I became aware of this last December, or possibly November, when I was staying with friends in LA and went to visit my own site – and got the shock of my life.
But forgot to test the problem until March… LOL…
BTW, two of the largest shareware programs are AdSubtract and AdMuncher… I would highly recommend webmasters go download these two so they can do testing – and if they can afford it (LOL, most of you make more than I do), go buy NIS and the McAfee suite (even though I won’t ever buy a product from them again).
This is the only reasonable advice I can give, since there is no concrete method of getting around these ad blockers – and even if I did have any great answers I wouldn’t be posting them here for fear that the software people would see that we’ve found a way to beat them at their own game.
November 11, 2003 at 8:31 pm #641430Anonymous
InactiveI just purchased Norton Anti-Virus Professional 2004 and have seen NO changes to my browsing on any website… gambling or otherwise.
November 11, 2003 at 8:56 pm #641431Anonymous
InactiveI doubt the anti-virus by itself would include ad-blocking – you’d have to have the Internet Security suite, or perhaps just Firewall.
The day anti-virus programs come with ad-blocking built-in, is D-day for online advertising as we know it. Billions of dollars down the tubes across all online industries.
OTHO, I would like to see anti-virus block spam… LOL… the trouble is, how would it be able to tell spam from legitimate newsletters that people have subscribed to?
November 11, 2003 at 9:49 pm #641432Anonymous
InactiveOriginally posted by Spearmaster
You’re being blocked by NIS 2003, so I assume NIS 2004 and/or NAV 2004 will also block you.And if that’s not bad enough, NIS often tags legitimate emails as spam as well.
Yes – within the last year 75% + of my emails to AOL were bounced back to me. I thought what the hell is going on? Well it appears that the new version of AOL blcoks html newsletters from going through.
I understand you have to get on the aol users contact list in order for the mail to go through. I have added a note regarding this to all my newsletter signup forms.
AOL SUCKS – always has always will!
November 12, 2003 at 3:35 pm #641454Anonymous
InactiveA different kettle of fish, but yes, that’s a big problem. And Hotmail has been known to do selective filtering for years – so for all you know your emails to Hotmail users might automatically fall in the junk folder.
The solution – in most cases – text newsletters. Sadly, we may have to forego HTML newsletters.
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