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BB1, I have read ALL the posts then made at GPWA.
And I have long forgiven everyone.
People spoke up according to what they thought were the “facts”.
There was nothing wrong with that, and I never had any problem with anyone from GPWA over it – save the person who presented the “facts”.
Hi Dom,
then you know what I say is true, but I was speaking of PM’s sent to “that person”.
The reason I knew the Prof had spoken privately on your behalf was because it was eluded to in a response to me.
Yes there were many who stood up for you and I didn’t mean it to sound like there weren’t. I was speaking strictly of private PM’s sent and it touched me that the Prof had went to that extent.
He’s a pretty good Joe if you get right down to it.
and so are you. Again I’m sorry for my incompetent memory.
I totally agree it is VERY important to speak your mind – either be it good or bad. You, and for that matter everyone knows I am more than willing to speak my mind. I have no qualms with regards to telling the story like it is or the way I see it anyway.
The problem is most wont say anything in fear of the repercussions and yes I have felt them like no other! I have spoken my mind on more than one occasion, three of which come to mind in the last three years cost me over a grand a month “EACH” in profits.
Do I care? Yes and no!
I am upset that I have lost the income, but happy that crooks have been revealed for what they were / are! I feel if I had kept my mouth shut and remained content I would have continued to receive the “acceptable to most,” but not to me handouts.
If you’re a betting person you can bet your last dollar that if “arkyt” feels something isn’t right he WILL speak up and say something! You can also bet that I will speak with passion and foremost integrity.
I wish more people would take the time to speak up when the need arises – when enough people with say so (if you will) speak their minds others will begin to take notice! If you remain content you can count on nothing but Steves sig line …
“If you are willing to sit quietly in the shadows and accept anything less than what you’ve rightfully earned then you not only deserve the screwing you got today, but also the one you’re going to get tomorrow.”
Arkyt, we all speak our minds here.
What ticked me off about BB1 and Focal is that he has been trashing them for over two years. He has done nothing to promote them for one year. He does show off the stats from the one year of non promotion – what are they supposed to show? A great income for non promotion? You can’t complain about making no money with someone you don’t even promote. That is just plain silly.
There are normal limits for everything. We have all bitched about one program or another, most of us about several. But we move on eventually, it doesn’t become an obsession. We don’t look for a way to sneek it into every single thread we can fathom a way to link it to for years.
The professor hit the nail on the head with this comment:
Lets give this one a rest or set up a dedicated thread where you are seeking some sort of solution to a CURRENT problem you are having with Focal.
I have spoken my mind about several programs, including Fortune, Referback, Casino Coins and others. I say what is on my mind, and I am open enough to give credit when things change. I have to credit both Referback and Fortune with good changes, and you haven’t heard me bitch about them in some time. Others still have grievances – and they do voice them and that is how it should be, That is how s#!t gets done!
BB1 needs to move into the year 2004 with this thing – or 2005 pretty soon.
And now I hope this is really the last of this topic – I have been sick of it for over a year. Each time it comes up it is less valid.
I hope the old topic is now dead and hopefully buried. Anything new comes up – bring it on.
And I do encourage everyone to speak up about problems – that is what we are here for. The programs that have forums have them here for problem resolution – that is what it’s all about. Resolving problems. And if they don’t have forums here, they usually show up anyway when we post about them. The system works just fine. Lets speak up, lets use the opportunity CAP provides for this, and let’s solve as many problems as possible.
Enough of this – I would like to have a peaceful and enjoyable holiday time.
Merry Christmas to you all!
:santa2:
oops, I was responding to “speaking your mind” and not to the Focal dispute. Honestly, I have no idea what the dispute is about – I have never really promoted them so I haven’t followed any previous post regarding that particular topic.
Merry xmas :xmas: … and lets drink to speaking our minds (when its necessary) :cheers:
believe me I’m sorry I said anything.
the thing you must remember is that its no skin off my nose what happens with a program I no longer promote.
I said something to save others my pitfalls, you have my solomn promise to never say anything about focal again, good or bad.
to say that they had no relevance towards the IC thread is rediculous IMHO, because if not IC, then who else with same software? its an easy jump IMHO.
as for stating 1 year of promotion, that is totally off-base. The stats you were able to see may have only gone back a year, I don’t know. but I’ve promoted them off and on, for a long time, closer to 4 maybe 5 years.
and as I stated earlier, that was the biggest reason I have been adamant about Focal, is because I HAVE given them more than ample opportunity.
Now add to that the fact that what I said is not just my opinion, it happens to be that of what I am pretty sure are many but I know at the very least one very seasoned vet that I know would be happy to say they feel the same. And I even have Dom’s own words that she too has been unhappy with them. What does it take?
regardless, what i have learned is if I see a problem with a program, to politely state as such, once, and then shut up about it.
Is that what you really want from this? Because its the message sent.
So what if I’ve been saying this for 3 years. When I start hearing some good things about them, I’ll not only shut up, but will gladly reconsider listing them again.
well I’ve said my piece, and please know I have no axe to grind with anybody.
I believe in live and let live. But to also stand up for those that might not be able to do so for themselves.
However, live and let learn, apparently, is the motto of this theme.
to me, the whole thing wasn’t worth the arguement if it had to reach this point because its quite obvious the only wheels I was trying to grease were those belonging to people to come after me.
I know my days at Focal are done. But consider that maybe the next person to come after me will just maybe get slightly better results since somebody was willing to step up and make an issue out of it instead of just politely saying something one time and then shutting up.
No matter what, its rediculous to say that I have anything to gain on the subject. I’ve been screwed over for much more money by other places, its just a joke to say that I have a personal vendetta against them.
In any case, I have learned my lesson. And will curtail my posts accordingly.
Focal Click Sux0rs. I have the stats to show that they do not do well – at least not for me.
I’ve made just over $100.00 in the past year with them, and with any luck, i’ll double that in the next year so I can get my first check from them!
:wavey:
Focal Click never converted for me either… I have long suspected it to be a big affiliate vs. little affiliate issue:
The idea that the super affiliates do well because they don’t want to lose them and that they steal from the littler affiliates because they don’t care if they do lose us.
My opinion only. Never followed whatever conflict was here, (so no comment) but did want to add my 2cents about the FC program while the subject is up.
