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  • #589159
    Anonymous
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    RoyalCardClub share the players with the Prima Poker network. It is operated under a sublicense from AztechRiches. The players can signup even if they have an account with them. What they actually do is handle the money transactions for us.

    Few words about the room. It has at peak hours over 10000 players. Ring games and tournaments are shared with other rooms in the network. Players can signup even if they are already playing on Prima. There is a large number of deposit and withdrawal methods.
    Support is offered by livechat and email with answers within 30 minutes.
    Deposit bonus is 25% up to 50$.

    Affiliate site is http://www.RoyalRake.com where affiliates can signup online, update their details, check stats….
    We offer 30% as a start but are ready to go for 35% for a top position in your website.
    As in Prima network rake the rake back is not prohibited we support the affiliates offering it. Thus we will have an automated system where affiliates simply decide the % they want to pay their players. We will even offer tracking in the software for your players so they know how much they earn.
    Bonuses and rake back are directly deducted from affiliate profits. We are now deiciding to either support the bonuses ourself or make a structure where the affiliate decide the bonus he want to offer but he keep supporting it. I will apreciate your feedback in this matter.

    Spam and copying content from other websites is completely prohibited.

    I am looking forward for your feedbacks,questions… and not the last to start promoting us

    #668363
    Anonymous
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    As in Prima network rake the rake back is not prohibited we support the affiliates offering it.

    I thought this was something CAP was against…. unless I’ve misread a number of posts here on the subject….

    #668364
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    While there are members here that decided to not offer support for poker rooms that alow rake back affiliates, others don’t mind and I am pretty sure some run rakeback themself.

    In the general disccussions forum you will find the no rake back sites.

    Along with the other poker room promoted by us (RoyalCardroom) there only few other networks with no rake back.

    I hope this help

    #668366
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    CAP as a site does not have a stance one way or another about rake back as far as I know. Many of the more vocal members, including myself, are against rakeback. That being said, supporting rakeback does not in any way make a room bad. As this is a business, we must each decide what rooms to support based on our expected returns.

    #668368
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Rake back itself is not a crime or anything sinister like that.

    Again, I would like to point to this post:

    http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8793

    Over time, we have discussed rake back in many posts, and almost all of us agree that it is unwise to advertise a rakeback room unless you offer rake back yourself. There is a sticky post in general discussions with rooms that are definitely not supporting rake back.

    Rooms that support or even just ignore Rake Back are not profitable for affiliates who choose not to offer rake back, which is the majority of established affiliates. Player theft is rampant. Profits are a lot better with rooms that do not support rake back, or that offer a VIP return on rake, such as Superior Poker does. Here your players are safe and happy, and they don’t run into the danger of being cheated.

    This is too bad Mihai, thankfully there is time to remove your pokers before my revised page is published.

    #668374
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    First I want to clear up somenthing. RoyalCardroom network is rake back free. That mean no partner in the network offer and that I think is a good agreement.

    On the other side is RoyalCardClub. Prima network alow rake back. As I mentioned in other post big players know evrything about network concept. Even if we don;t offer it if they like the network they know they simply need to find a skin.

    Here are some myths about rake back that i think are not true:

    – rake back affiliates are out there to steal your players. They only want to secure the players to not move from one room to other and that is why they share a big part of their money. Once a player hear about rake back he either like the site/network he play that much or go for rake back.

    – affiliate steal the players from the game chat. That mean: stop promoting entire Party network, PokerRoom network and Prima network. This togehter have over 75% of poker market so is hard not to promote any.

    Regarding Superior Poker rake back promotion. I personally think is the worse thing an affiliate can do. What you actually do is turn your regular players into a rakeback player. It is enough to hear about this posibilty and he will be within days searching for better deals.

    #668376
    Anonymous
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    Mihai does not really have a choice here. If primapoker has just one site that allow rake-back all other sites have to offer rake back also – its plain logic.

    Even though I don’t like the concept I just purchased a rake-back domain today –It does not seem like the poker rooms are going to stop rake-back affiliates any time soon. I will keep it separate from other domains, but will probably launch it in a few months.

    #668377
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Well, while the topic merits is, I don’t have the time to go and gather the materials to disprove your statements today. I need to get to work now.

    I did want to say though that not only do rake back affiliates steal from us, they hire people to do it for them. Do read the thread I provided above.

    It’s the situation described from the horse’s mouth.

    #668378
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Prima has more then 1 other site supporting rake back.

    I do have a choice. Frozing the affiliate accounts that spam.
    The big rake back portals now buy advertising on other portals while some of the small ones signup their friends…
    There is a number of bad affiliates that go and post on boards, try to advertise on poker chat….. but you can’t blame everyone becouse they exist

    Well i think we can have countless discussions regarding rake back without getting to something that all webmasters agree with. With 3 out of 4 top networks alowing it it can’d disappear.

    I consider it a matter of personal choice regarding promoting it or not. If for exemple someone can retain his players for years to play under his account wouldn’t he settle for 10-15% of player rake? I think this is the main idea of the rake back.

    #668380
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    What everyone should not overlook in this instance is that mihai offers both options. RoyalCardRoom does not support rakeback and RoyalCardClub does. I am going to advertise RoyalCardRoom and not Club because of this. Once again, it is about making choices and making informed choices is the best way. As long as I know the stance of any room beforehand, I don’t have a problem. At that point the decision is entirely mine.

    #668381
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    What everyone should not overlook in this instance is that mihai offers both options. RoyalCardRoom does not support rakeback and RoyalCardClub does. I am going to advertise RoyalCardRoom and not Club because of this. Once again, it is about making choices and making informed choices is the best way. As long as I know the stance of any room beforehand, I don’t have a problem. At that point the decision is entirely mine.

    Thx Pokermonger for pointing that out.

    IMO there is not much a room can do if they are part of a large network of sites.

    #668385
    Anonymous
    Inactive
    mihai wrote:
    IMO there is not much a room can do if they are part of a large network of sites.

    Exactly

    So to sum this up

    B2B network – No rakeback – Royal Card Room
    Primapoker – rakeback – Royal Card Club

    The choice is yours, but its software related, not related to the individual poker room.

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