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And how can a political party headed by Howard Dean possibly be any better?
It will put the “YEEEHAAAAAAAH!” back in politics :hehe:
Siouxzee wrote:In fact, they’ve voted right along with the Republicans in this.Did you expect them to vote against a port safety act? No way.
Did you expect them to vote against a port safety act? No way.
They weren’t voting against a favorable bill in the House.
Vote libertarian, or if none available, vote “No Confidence”. It takes a lot of raindrops to make a flood, but I get the feeling there are a lot of disgruntled individuals out there that don’t like the encroachment on their rights.
Cheers,
It would have been helpful if HALF the poloticians even KNEW that gambling was part of the Safe Ports Bill – But Frist made sure THAT wasn’t going to be known by submitting it a short time before the vote.
The version many of them saw did NOT YET contain that portion.
It’s bullshit – and THAT is enough for me to say fuck the Republicans even though I have voted for many a R in the past.
kwblue wrote:It would have been helpful if HALF the poloticians even KNEW that gambling was part of the Safe Ports Bill – But Frist made sure THAT wasn’t going to be known by submitting it a short time before the vote.The version many of them saw did NOT YET contain that portion.
It’s bullshit – and THAT is enough for me to say fuck the Republicans even though I have voted for many a R in the past.
This will sound crazy, but they all do this for a living… full time. They all also have staff. They all have the time to read something before they vote on it. They’re all the same group of people.
I never vote Republican, their economic policies cause too much inflation which hurts a majority of the population.
Historically, the stock market averages a better return under Democrats than Republicans. However, democrats have gotten way too liberal lately, especially with their immigration policy.
I usually listen to the candiate as many times as possible and ignore those with an agenda like Hannity, Coulter and Franken.
We need a moderate party.
Oneguy2nv wrote:This will sound crazy, but they all do this for a living… full time. They all also have staff. They all have the time to read something before they vote on it. They’re all the same group of people.It is crazy. Do you know how many bills are proposed each year? Forget about all the other stuff that goes into being a politician. Just trying to read all the bills would take more time than anyone is given in a day.
It’s easy for you or someone else that’s honed in on one issue to know a lot, because you’re not trying to deal with 100 other bills and issues at the same time.
I’m not making excuses for them, but it’s not as simple and time free as the general public thinks.
As to voting Republican or Democrat. Don’t be a fool and vote for a party. That’s the first mistake. Vote for the person. Each party is full of people that just don’t get it. In the Republican party, for example, it’s splintered now between original libertarian type Republicans and the new fiscally irresponsible Republicans (see G.W. Bush).
Look for candidates that don’t just throw their vote along party lines, but look like they actually think first. Also, don’t get fooled into voting for Congress candidates based on their own personal views on things like abortion. Why? Because abortion is legal and if it ever becomes illegal, it will be the Supreme Court that came to action and not your local Senator or Representative.
When one party is in power, our country becomes an Oligarchy. Voting all the Republicans out won’t help if we vote all the Democrats in. We need checks and balances to keep a sane system of government.
Well, I could go on all night. That’s plenty.
My quick advice. Take a look at libertarian, the best ideas of democrats and republicans in a sensible way. Now if they could just find a candidate to get people excited.
On the impending Democratic take-over of Congress. Yes it is important to oust as many Republicans as possible, if only because it will create a stalemate with the Executive branch. Not always a great thing, but in looking at the alternative, a much more attractive situation IMHO. Take away the yes men and Bush will be forced to listen to another opinion and maybe one day compromise on something (ok, now I am dreaming).
Market Junction wrote:It is crazy. Do you know how many bills are proposed each year? Forget about all the other stuff that goes into being a politician. Just trying to read all the bills would take more time than anyone is given in a day.It’s easy for you or someone else that’s honed in on one issue to know a lot, because you’re not trying to deal with 100 other bills and issues at the same time.
I’m not making excuses for them, but it’s not as simple and time free as the general public thinks.
How many bills NEED to be proposed each year? Almost none.
Can they devise a system where they read everything they vote on? Yes.
Ya know… it really doesn’t matter much. If they were pressured to read things, they’d just lie and say they did much like they do now.
For those of us in the general public… That’s really my point here. None of those people are looking out for us. None of them are like us. Just like a group of cops or baseball players will be different from the general public, so will a group of politicians. One big difference is that politicians will lie to you and pretend that they are like you. A lot of people buy in to it. The truth is that democrats and republicans have way more in common with each other than they do with the average person.
