@SusanAndMark 153717 wrote:
I can relate this to Full Tilt, CaP, PAP and absolute poker. Steady downhill spiral because of a ME ME ME attitude.
You have made a handful of posts. You accuse CAP, PAP, and all of the people here of being selfish and say to corpfan
Self centred affiliates are the reason the sites get away with murder. you are just another groupie
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Somehow I think you haven’t read CAP. I have been reading it for 6 years and I can tell you that CAP has fixed more problems with aff programs than you can shake a stick at.
This thread was about a current problem with Full Tilt and you have turned it into a platform for you to accuse other affiliates of not being cohesive and derailed the second thread on the topic.
I really should just ignore you, but your attitude irks me because I have put some 6 years into keeping the gaming affiliate industry a level playing field.
Affiliates do not now nor will they ever agree on everything. Affiliates are a bunch of smart, enterprising, hard working, competitive and innovating individuals, not a flock of sheep. They have their own opinions and ways to make things work.
Nevertheless, we come together here and at PAP to make sure that the playing field is level, to help each other out, to expose problems such as the current one with Full Tilt and to fix things that have gone awry. If it wasn’t for us, PAP, Affiliate Guard Dog, APCW and GPWA there would be no properly executed contracts between affs and programs at all, terms would change at will. We have intervened in such situations countless times.
You are way, way off base with your generalized accusations.
That said, I do understand what you are saying about some affiliates being made to feel “special” and “invulnerable” by certain programs and as such they tend to overlook the problems with their contracts. There are programs that try to coast on this, coddle a few and exploit the rest. Falling for these promises tends to come back to haunt such affiliates with regularity, Cpays was a perfect example of this.
What we can do is be vigilant, bring any irregularities out into the open and attempt to fix them. More often than not these things can be fixed and they are fixed. I can think of few programs that haven’t been in hot water at one time or another over the years. Most all of the problems can be and have been fixed.
The affiliate community is doing an excellent job of supporting each other and of keeping this an industry one can work in with the confidence that hard work will pay off. Many of us go out of their way to help newbies gain foot hold. I have never seen such a phenomena – an extremely competitive industry that actually helps newcomers to make a place for themselves. I am damn proud to be here.
That out of the way, perhaps now we can actually talk about what we should do about Full Tilt? Keep this thread professional and have Full Tilt come and talk to us and fix things.