First I’ll duck,
Then I’ll say that I still promote CPays, I’ve complained here about things I wasn’t happy with, they changed, I PMed once asking for a new affiliate manager, and although the process didn’t happen as smoothly as I’d have liked, it did happen.
I’ve been reading this thread daily, but since I didn’t have much relevant to say, decided to keep quiet. I do want to comment on a statement by CPays however…
Firstly, you mentioned that webmasters have chimed in and joined the CPays blacklist, that still currently promote 888. If I were you, I’d pay some special attention to those webmasters. I think you’re very wrong here, if there are people going to the trouble to create rouge pages just for the backline, those probably aren’t the people. I do believe the backlink for rouging 888 is still available. So why did they choose to blacklist CPays? What is it they are unhappy about?
If you look back to last month, I myself didn’t receive a CPays payment.. after a question and an email, i was reminded to update a NETeller addy, and waluah problem solved. You might be alienating some good affiliates here over simple misunderstandings, might at least be worth an email… I notice you have us blacklisted.. What can we do? etc.
I myself rouged 888.com; it had nothing to do with me personally. I’d read for months how they treated other affiliates, damage caused, thread after thread, when the blacklist idea came about, I couldn’t get the pages up fast enough, in support of my friends here at CAP.
Later, I was talking with a friend in an instant messenger window, and he asked what I thought of the whole thing. Not real sure where he stood on the matter, I jokingly said “hey the backlinks are great”. Now realistically, I think the page got a whopping PR of 2.
My friend’s stance on the matter was that he also didn’t have personal issue with 888… but in support of others that had previously support him, he felt VERY strongly about it!
I’m personally not ready to blacklist CPays; the blacklist thread actually came to quite a surprise to me. I read pretty much every msg posted on CAP every day. I had read the complaints here about the SEO contest, and then very shortly thereafter BAM, I read the blacklist thread. I still feel very strongly that we all need to support each other here, as affiliates, as friends, etc. However, i didn’t see a fair warning, and think we might be jumping the gun here…
Without having seen the warning posts, I decided to be quiet, i must have missed something big, but I still don’t see it..
I believe you Dom when you say you have been commenting for months, but having my own troubles with CPays at the time; it seems that I would have noticed serious warnings, and I just don’t recall anything catching my attention ..
IMO, welcome CPays, it took ya forever to get here! However, I am impressed by the response! This is a forum, a community, where friendships that are very real are created. The funny part is that sometimes you read so many posts by someone, you may never even respond to them.. but eventually you connect, you notice that persons name, and you read what they say… must make it hard to be an affiliate manager here, when tempers flair, and all of those forum friends, that you hear from nearly daily, get angry at your program.. alla sudden, you’re a bull’s-eye!
I know I’m getting a little off track here, and hope that what I’m trying to say is getting through somewhere.
In my reality, it’s a contest, I can see why CAPsters disagree with it, I can see the damage it can do. However, i just don’t see that as the intention when the contest was introduced.
As faults of Cpays, this has always been a biggy with me… I like what you’re sayin’ here. Yes teach the new affiliate how to create, build and promote their own site. I get that. However, every penny they earned from stolen content, is in fact, stolen money. If you used someone else’s work to earn the money, well then that’s their money, dontchya think?
This isn’t a “Cpays only” practice, I’ve read it a million times. It takes time to shut down the offending site. No we don’t want to ban them etc… but I still don’t understand why the programs do not simply move the earnings from the offending affiliate, to the affilate who’s work earned the profit. By not doing so, you are indeed adding to the problem.
And do not tell me that you can’t figure out who had the content first. Everytime I mention a name to an affiliate manager, they know just who I’m talking about..
I say I need images for some reviews that ‘bob’ ordered, they say, oh I know bob, he owns blahblah.com.
Three or four times a week I get comments about my own sites from affiliate managers.. I like this update, I like that, but we’re not up high enough. How come you’re holding this tournament and not ours.. you see our sites 
.. I imagine you know your big earners sites almost as well as they do 
~LadyH