I forgot to add;
Dom does make some very valid points; things do change as time goes by.
Perhaps we should re-hash some old tunes and see where everybody stands with them now.
I hasten to add however that if a program had a bad reputation; they likely earned it; and deserved it.
Climbing out of that hole is never easy. Programs should take heed of that and make certain they never fall into the “bad rep” category.
a bad taste stays in the memory a long time.