Hi,
well I figure things from the bottom line up. If that program is making me the most money that month; they’ll get the most traffic.
I think you’ve got to figure it that way because of all the shaving going on. If you can’t trust the stats to figure out who has the best ratio of profit per player, then you’ve got to look at the bottom line. (the exception to this rule is if I have a big winner; I don’t penalize the casino because if they are on the up and up; 90% of the time you’ll get that money back and then some before it’s all said and done).
let me explain about the first part of that paragraph.
at Wagershare I don’t have very good conversion rates. However, the last few months they’ve slowly been working their way up the income earned per month ladder.
Here’s a real scenario I’m now experiencing. These numbers are fabricated examples.
I am sending more traffic to Vegas Partners than WS over the last few months. Now if I got 8 new depositing players at Vegas Partner; and only 1 at Wagershare; but my income at WS was $2k and my income at VP was $500; I’ve got to figure something is up with VP. Especially since this has gone on now for 3 or 4 months. and while I realize that not every player is going to be a whale; if you consider that over those four months that I’ve converted 32 depositing player at VP, and only 4 at WS; and yet I am still making 4 times the money at WS;…..
then I figure I’m better off with a program that has
1.) proven to me that they aren’t going to shave my whales
2.) makes me more money at the end of the month regardless of a much poorer conversion rate than that of VP.
assuming that every program shaves or cheats you somehow (not that I’m saying they do); then viewing those two examples; I must come to the conclusion that one is shaving whales and the other is merely shaving players randomly; or otherwise if completely honest; then is seriously lacking in the ability to sell their product.
Either way, I’ll take the incompetent sales-ablility / random shaving of players over the shaving of all my whales any day.
this all is figured if the sending the same quality of traffic, of course.
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to address what Ark said about amount of traffic sent being the way a program judges you:
I get very little traffic in terms of quantity and I imagine that has hurt me with some programs in the past (or may be currently) that doesn’t know what kind of players I am capable of bringing in.
So when they shave me hard the first month because I didn’t send 10k of hits; I take down their links and we never really got a chance to get off the ground …. so to speak. If that’s the case; its probably for the best anyway, because in the end they would have cheated me anyway.
A cheat is a cheat. Aff managers can justify shaving anyway they want to; but in the end they either kept their end of the bargain, or they didn’t.
But I think some aff managers could learn from what I’ve said.
A much better example is a friend who’s very big in the industry. Often she will start out a program with sending traffic from just one spot on her many sites. but from a spot she knows has a good success rate.
If that program screws her; she avoids having to deal with taking down a bunch of links; and more importantly; she knows that if they’ll screw her a little; they’ll screw her a lot; if given a chance.
I hasten to add that another way of doing this is to check with somebody like me who she knows is sending small amounts of quality traffic. I don’t see results then something is funny. Its that simple.
but the thing is; is that the program has no idea how many sites she really has; or that she is very sought-after in the industry by aff managers that DO know what she’s capable of.
And by choosing to shave what they thought was the little guy; they lose out on ……. well I’ll tell you that some programs see well over a 100k a month from her players.
my 2 cents.