That’s a simple and blunt way of putting it 
I’m not so much worried about what propaganda any one group is spreading I’m curious as to how everyone determines conversion percentages. 
Janet has stated she considers shell get 1 join in every 21 downloads (average.) That would be roughly 5% conversion on just downloads. If she was getting an equal conversion ratio for clicks to downloads, based on that 21 downloads she would have sent 420 hits.
So does this 5% conversion from downloads to joins seem on par, and furthermore does this percentage also remain constant for clicks to downloads?
I’m not asking for traffic numbers just conversion percentages.
Hell if some of those inflated percentages we see slung around were just half true in Janets instance shed see an 800% improvement in conversions. 