@Warren 229592 wrote:
Steve S, Play, and whs-web:
Warren, Warren and Warren,
Are you guys really too busy to not even take your time to answer us personally? Call me a chupa chupp, but I spend a good time writing to you in this thread… Why not answer me?
@Warren 229592 wrote:
You have a right to be angry.
I say thank you. Is that just for here in the forum? Or are we allowed to be angry elsewhere too? I know, now I am being silly, right? But. Warren. I am by far not angry anymore. I already moved on. Being angry does not do anything. I had to move on or drown.
Did you tell the BCP clowns that I have a right on 100% of my money earned too btw?
@Warren 229592 wrote:
If I didn’t make it clear already, I am by NO means disagreeing with any of you that BCP is completely handling this situation wrong.
Obviously. Did you get paid? What was your percentage? Let’s have it all out in the open:
I got paid around $12k and was told it was about 50% of what I was owed that month. I got this, since I was such a good affiliate. My contact told me this in these exact same words.
@Warren 229592 wrote:
My goal with this post was to lay out the full story from the horse’s mouth (to ensure the story was consistent across the board) and try to mediate some sort of resolution with them to get you guys (and others) paid.
If that was your goal, you would have made TWO STICKY threads (besides the sticky’s you continuously have that BRING IN THE MONEY for this forum) Did you notice? Most important stickys are to sign up as affiliate somewhere. Oh, I beg you pardon, they are non commercial, right?
@Warren 229592 wrote:
CAP has done this successfully in a countless number of similar situations over the past 10 years; any of our senior members would attest to this. In fact, we dealt with a BCP related matter in 2008 which we were successful in resolving. I can’t say this situation will be the same due to the dire circumstances, but the motivation and goal is the same.
Its exactly like with investing Warren, past successes will not be any value for in the present time. Although great, since that was the sole reason I came here, since I heard that this forum did that so successfully, it is an even more greater let down, to see that all of those powers have gone where Osama bin laden is.
@Warren 229592 wrote:
Rather than making personal attacks against CAP, AGD, GPWA, and others claiming that we do not truly have affiliate’s interests at heart, I can only say that we are not miracle workers and are being placed in a very difficult situation because none of us are equipped to launch a legal class-action suit against an operator, especially in this industry where there is no regulation in the U.S. market and these companies are hidden behind multiple veils / structures in foreign countries which are very expensive to pierce.
I believe, I posted the first thread about this. You were where? What post # is yours? How many sticky threads with warnings did we see? You make it hard to believe that all the money has not slightly put on those pink glasses for the guys who stand up for us in this forum. Again, this forum should never ever have to be managed by affiliates who are our competition.
@Warren 229592 wrote:
This is no different than a casino going out of business and not paying it’s players; the affiliate who sent those players is put in a difficult situation and does have an obligation to its players, but not once has an affiliate ever chose to take legal action against a casino on behalf of its players because it’s a futile effort.
It was my believe this forum stands up for us affiliates. It does perhaps as you say, but, with no result.
How about allowing us to know what you know. Why are there redirects to Golden Palace? So, now we know this, should you not go over to them?
Let us stop playing their game with hide and seek. I know that you know a lot more.
I was told. By who? Check your contacts as there is a leak. Best bluf poker in the world, right?
This is not a personal attack at all. I am giving you the chance to come clean for us all.
@Warren 229592 wrote:
I propose the following and welcome your thoughts on this:
- I will initiate contact with GPWA and AGD to get their thoughts on how we can find a resolution through a collaborative efforts.
- We will discuss all options available and try to prioritize them accordingly.
- I will communicate those back to the members ASAP and gain everyone’s feedback so we can help organize the appropriate action.
Communication in the open please. Otherwise there will be too much of the ‘that whs-web is an azzhool’ and that play dude should shut up, and that steve person bla bla bla
NO more friends politics please. I am not saying it has been done, I am eliminating the opportunity for it to arise.
@Warren 229592 wrote:
At the end of the day, this whole situation is going to come down to whether or not the owners of BCP wish to settle their obligations personally with affiliates as they are the ones who are driving this decision – essentially to remove themselves from the spotlight of U.S. authorities – which is the right thing to do based on recent events.
Who are they please? I am surely hoping you know. Why otherwise are they so approved and praised in to heaven as they were?
Do these owners realize that the attention, focus and aim of all guns are shifting over to Golden Palace now?
Hackers can take them down too. All of their casinos. Already heard it would be a piece of cake. (For legal reasons, I have nothing to do with hacking. I was simply contacted by someone here…)
Thing is this, is Golden palace willing to deal with this? I would hate it if I was them. It would be cheaper for them to pay all debts owed.
@Warren 229592 wrote:
Again, I am trying to keep a rational viewpoint on the situation as that is the only way to mediate any type of situation like this, however, if we (and I can probably say the same for others) are going to be attacked rather than supported, then it only makes sense for us to respectfully bow out of this mediation.
I am open to any other ideas so long as they are productive towards our common end goal.
It was never a personal attack perhaps more a dissapointment on how things are being dealt with here.
The whole BCP world has been nuked, and ALREADY now (sarcastic) we are having this discussion. IF this was my organization, It would have been a lot different I tell you.
Maybe that is what I need to do.
Drop all of my affiliate business, sacrifice it all and regulate this b*tch. For all of us.
This should never ever happen again.
The more I think of it, the more I get exited to do it.
It has its price, but it can be done.
Proper regulation. Keep the bad boys out, make the good boys a **** load of money.
One side we have a proper selection of affiliates, on the other side MY proper selection of affiliate programs REGULATED through our own TOS.
It has its price, but can be done. I already looked around a bit…
Cause, I for one, am sick being fukced about as if I were a fool.