Reply To: Quotas – a rant that needs to be aired

@Renee 207095 wrote:

The only way the affiliate’s account would be closed for fraud would be if we could 100% prove it. So I think we are arguing about the same thing here :tongue:
There’s no way I would close an aff account unless I was 100% sure.[/quote]
Well exactly. But you can still prove that the player account was 100% fraud. So if player fraud does their job, you have nothing to worry about.

There’s no point in worrying about something that ultimately should not affect you – I used to be like that and in the end discovered that there was no point in worrying so much that I couldn’t do anything else.

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As I said, i don’t think I can explain the circulating aff commission in the way to show what I mean. I am a natural blonde you know

I’m pretty sure I know what you’re saying. I’m just too lazy to explain the process – but in the end I am also pretty sure that it will not hurt you.

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We have no problem with an aff signing up under their own account to test the casinos. Once the commission reaches a certain amount though, the account is automatically demapped to prevent the rule in our T&Cs being broken. We allow up to a certain amount for testing, then cut it off.. So no problems there.. I’m not sure exactly how much it is, but I can find out if any are curious.

Here’s the problem – you cannot demap an account. You might set it to 0% commission, that I wouldn’t argue with – but the instant you demap, we are in the same situation again. I don’t test a casino once and then never again. I might test it for every promo I run!

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We also have no problem with the affiliate putting his commission into a player account whether the affiliate’s player account is tagged or not to another affiliate (we actually offer this as a payment method). Paying out the 35% commission is not the issue.. The issue is that it gets circulated so that the amount we are paying is actually much more than 35%, and the amount of bonuses given is actually much higher than the standard 25-35% (including loyalty points), which eventually over time makes them together not profitable for the casino…

Here we go again… haha…

I understand exactly what you’re saying. But what is the difference between:

A. Aff earns $100 commission from himself, deposited direct into his player account
B. Aff earns $100 commission from others, deposited direct into his player account

The result is *exactly* the same. But you’re saying that the aff could then lose the $100 and get more bonuses?

Once the $100 is in the player account, it is the same no matter what the source, whether it be commission, credit card, Neteller, wire, snail mail, etc…

Also, in theory, if the commissions end up in the player account, they don’t get further bonuses in the same manner as if they were making a deposit – because it hasn’t passed through the casino’s front door, so to speak.

You correctly state that funds get recycled – but what I am saying is that it should end up being *exactly* the same no matter where the commission came from. If it does NOT – you need to check the process to see what is wrong.

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I dont know how else to explain this so I’m giving up. If any of the other aff managers want to explain it, feel free.