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September 18, 2008 at 6:30 pm #779136
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InactiveShe spun her way out that (ABC) Charlie Gibson Bush Doctrine question and again yesterday at a townhall meeting. What a soft interview (FOX) Sean Insanity gave so far, hopefully he’ll get a little tougher in the next segment that airs but don’t count on it. Does anyone believe FOX is fair and balanced? Just watch Fox & Friends for a few mornings and see what the lead story always is and what it’s not.
When some were pushing Guliani I said no way he’s an amateur, he went far, l say the same for Palin she’s an amateur. If McCain/Palin get elected, my prediction, two or three years from we’ll be hearing things like “he regrets picking her” she’s difficult to work with”, “she’s too stubbon” A mule with lipstick if you will.

Do not let the GOP trash this economy any more than they already have.
September 19, 2008 at 7:15 pm #779229Anonymous
InactiveWell i’d say Fox is fair and balanced :flush:
Fair – as in mediocre, not of high quality
Balanced – they offend equally by their commentary programs and their news reportsSeptember 20, 2008 at 4:30 am #779261Anonymous
Inactive“Key Republican admits Palin not Qualified”
I thought you all thought all Republicans are liars, lol. Kidding on that.I like her; I would love to see some tough female like Palin in a high position like that.
I am voting for Brad Sherman, a Democrat in his next election, He is a good Rep for my city even though I disagree with him on more than a few of his stances, overall I do like him.
As far as Palin, I volunteered for her and McCain, I think she is great. Maybe I have a soft spot for kids with special needs, I don’t know, but I think she is a straight shooter and a strong woman like her is what we need, that’s why I made 678 phone calls so far for that ticket.
Nevertheless, that is why this country is great, we can all value each other’s opines without it get ugly.
Important thing for Americans is to get out in a peaceful and respectful manor in November and vote for our own choices
September 20, 2008 at 5:30 am #779262Anonymous
InactiveHagel is a Republican in name only – remember, he was consdered to be on Obama’s short list!
September 20, 2008 at 1:07 pm #779272Anonymous
InactiveWell Bud, i don’t agree with you on Sarah Palin, but i understand why people like her.
She’s new, different and has style of speaking that is different from what we’re all used to. Unfortunately she seems to run things like Dick Cheney, with personal attacks, harrassment by her husband and staff and firing people who aren’t political allies. Well i’ve seen 8 years of that crap and i’m not going to settle for another 4 years of this BS.
Bleuze?
Chuck Hagel is a Republican in name only?Lets see, Bush/Cheney ran up more debt, spent more money he didnt have than any administration in history, violated the entire nation’s privacy/constitutional rights. Now they’re spendin $600 Billion bailing out Wall Street
Sorry it’s the facists in power today, Bush/Cheney who are republicans in name only. Real republicans believe in personal freedom, personal responsibility and fiscal responsibility. Bush/Cheny have failed in all categories.
September 20, 2008 at 1:28 pm #779274Anonymous
InactiveI’m happy to see that some republicans are being real about thier opinion of Palin and not be so blind sighted by her.
She sais that she will fight for people with special needs, but here is a link to what she has cut funding for and The SPECIAL OLYMPICS and pregnant teens are on the list. Google Search
– Palin cut funding for Alaska Special Olympics.
– Palin Blocked Funds To Help Teenage Mothers
– Palin Cut Funding for Rape Victim Medical ExamsSeptember 20, 2008 at 8:04 pm #779298Anonymous
InactiveIf McCain gets in, do you know how many Americans are going to feel slighted, short changed and left out, just about the same amount of McCain backers that will feel that way if Obama gets in.
The truth is and I’m afraid to say it is the truth, government has been way to bias, for them its party before the people , thats not only wrong, but it is on both sides.
I have read in here about her being and saying nasty things, I havent seen one nasty thing by a McCain supporter in this post say anything nasty..
Leave the nasty things out for a moment,cant anyone say they dont like her or Bidon or OB or Mc , because of a bill they didnt or did sign and not because of some silly talking point.
I think I made a valid point when I said the guy who ran Fannie May was put there by Clinton and that he gave OB a lot of campaign mony, the 2nd largest amount he gave anyone. It was not said in a mean way, it is just a fact. I just dont get why people arent offened by that, instead on the news there are rummers that her down syndrom child is her daughters, the book thing was disproved by some of the libral main stream media now and still its talked about like shes a female Hilter
I dont know, i vote for Dems, Reps and Libertarians when I vote, I vote for people. Not party.
I honestly think people dont like her because she is not what people who do not like conservitives think a consev. woman she be. or is it because she refused to abort a child with DS. To me thats walkin the talk and for that I give her a hell of a lot of credit.
I would like to know if it was ok for OB to accept all of that Fannie May money. Why isnt Charlie Gibson talking about that.
September 20, 2008 at 9:08 pm #779305Anonymous
InactiveShe can walk anyway that SHE wants to. I just want the CHOICE to walk the way I want to.
September 21, 2008 at 2:20 am #779314Anonymous
InactiveAmen, and you know what, thats what I want too. It’s just kind of hard for me sometimes because many off the members in here seem to think because someone goes to a Christian Chuch and we hold on to consevitive values that we are all Republican Right Wing Extremists that are destroying OUR country.
You dont think Im sick of left wing people telling me I cant have a gun for protection, or I have to feel guilty when I say Merry Christmas. Guess what , it works both ways. I dont like being told by people what I can or cant do either
“Real republicans believe in personal freedom, personal responsibility and fiscal responsibility.”
AMCAn, you are right on that one , well said, well put and well done. I appreaciate you saying that, thank you………………….September 21, 2008 at 2:34 am #779316Anonymous
InactiveI agree about not sticking to one party, but it’s like you are forced to. I’ve voted republican (not president) in the past as well as lived with an ex that was a black republican (very rare breed) LOL so I do know a little about both parties.
I wish we could get rid of a bunch of them from both parties and vote stictly on issues alone, but that will never happen, at least in the near future.
September 21, 2008 at 9:44 pm #779333Anonymous
InactiveWell Bud,
I appreciate what you’re saying about the tone here, frankly i think most of us on both sides of the issue sound a bit too harsh, i just think at this point we’ve got a very liberal/left/anti-bush group here, i’d guess 75-80%, so there are more Dem/liberal posts. Also most Europeans and Canadians, whether liberal or conservative are often more liberal than a lot of US democrats and most folks at CAP are not Americans.I was a republican from about age 10 till about 17. I’m the guy who colored the map Red when Vietnam and Cambodia fell and made my own WIN button when Gerry Ford was president. The thing that changed me permanently were Reagan/Bush in 1980. I liked George Bush and the campaign he was running, one of my buddy’s dad was working for the campaign, my state Governor was campaign co-chair. Then he accepted the VP spot from Reagan and suddenly this moderate who was a member of the ACLU became a parrot for Reagan, suddenly he seemed to never had believed in what he had run on. As for Reagan, when i found out that this man was about pushing this Religious stuff, but didn’t go to church, he wanted to cut taxes, but raise spending, etc. I realized that the Republican Party wasn’t about Personal freedom and a Rational approach to economics anymore and i went and voted for John Anderson.
Well after 2 years of Reagan and Bill Milliken (republican governor of michigan) deciding to retire in 1982, i decided to vote for the party and it was the Democratic Party. Reagan drove me into a flaming commie for a few years, until i realized that the only way socialist governments stand a chance of working is via a successful economy. A successful economy needs to be free, so today i call myself a “Left Wing Capitalist”.
If I voted for the “man” and not the party, I still wouldn’t vote for McCain or Palin for anything. I would enjoy having dinner with them and chatting, but putting them in charge? no way.
September 22, 2008 at 3:45 am #779347Anonymous
InactiveI hardly think Hagel is Republican in name only when he voted with Bush 95% of the time and the Christian Coalition gives him a top rating.
As for on Obama’s short list, I doubt it. Bloomberg and him maybe, but that’s not going to happen now.
I was crossing my fingers that O would pick Wesley Clarke, but Biden was my second choice.
As to Obama and Fannie/Freddie donations – it was on CNN today a fact checking report.
Obama accepted donations from F/F employees, but when it comes to lobbyists/special interest groups, McCain took 10X the amount compared to Obama.
McCain=$167,000 vs. Obama $16,000.
Guess I don’t have to mention that I want the poker player to win :wink-winkSeptember 22, 2008 at 5:49 am #779356Anonymous
InactiveBelow are a few interesting articles if you want to take the time to read them.
http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2008/09/update-fannie-mae-and-freddie.html (this is a break down of all funds received by all members of Congress from the mortgage giants – their all crooks, especially the top 3 and we the taxpayors are going to pay for it)
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=5569333 (this article about Hagel is from ABC News – not really Republican friendly)
Must not be a good poker player. By the way, many in Congress play pokerSeptember 22, 2008 at 6:43 am #779357Anonymous
InactiveI could not get into your second article, but I don’t feel that ABC leans progressive.
Let’s face it for the last 6 years all US cable and network news programs were simply
mouthing the talking points of the Bush administration. They were all guilty of trying to be
Fox wannabes. That’s why I have been tuning to Canadian stations, newspaper, BBC or
reading the progressive blogs to wade thru the spin.
Secondly, the other link from the comments section, this poster makes my point for me.Right wing sites are linking to this to suggest that Obama was in the pocket of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac because he is the second highest recipient of donations on the list of Senators and Congressman.
This is an absurd assertion on so many levels. Seeing as how his presidential campaign has raised more money from everywhere than any other in history makes a comparison of his figures to lawmakers raising money for a House or Senate race on its face ludicrous.
And notice how 95% of his contributions came from INDIVIDUALS that work at Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. These are not the policy makers of the company. These are just employees that reflect America.
Everybody works somewhere. I happen to work for an oil company. My contributions to Obama will show up under the name of an oil company, as will my co-workers’. We support Obama’s positions because they’re good for America, regardless of whether they may or may not be good for the executives of our company.
So the contributions from individuals in a company do not mean that that company has influence over the candidate.gaylem
September 22, 2008 at 6:52 am #779359Anonymous
Inactiveinteresting thread. to be fair to both parties, they are paid for by the same people. just not in the same ratios. either way, their campaign supporters have to leverage their losses, which is why they donate to both parties.
besides, no matter what is said, the democrating and republican party is not that much different. they say different things, but act rather similarly. so perhaps its just an illussion of democracy.
i’m not american but i find it strange on what merits the president and his VP are being elected. after having bush in power, you’ld expect people to choose someone intelligent, but there is so much prejudice around that this election will stand to prove (now more than ever) whether US is still heavily tainted by racial issues.
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