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In my opinion it’s the struggling economy in the US. But as it rebounded a little bit over the last month / 3 weeks I see more deposits, new players and my US players all ready registered are depositing more.
same here my RTG programs are doing practically nothing downloads and and players yes but no deposits.
I am replacing some RTG with MG casinos. But is it just a a bad month or are the whales swimming to the poles to cool off?
Rick
Guys many casinos and poker rooms are having a hard time processing US player transactions. The pull out of ePassport furher aggravated the problem.
Here’s a tip to operators:
The operators who are having the greatest level of success are using processors who code the transactions as travel or something else. I can deposit with my BOA card at River#### casino so this method does work for US players.
note: I am moving this to the private discussions area since we are dealing with banking.
I see the US stable but not growing as expected…
The econony is the pits, the government is spending billions in Iraq instead of taking care of business at home.
Paast 6 weeks it seems depositors have dropped off a lot at the us facing casinos i promote . I dont think it has to do with deposit methods as the casinos seem to find ways to accept deposits , such as recently primapin and toggle card and some are even accepting echecks .
The problem i see is withdrawls , a lot of casinos are taking over a month to process them , players get fed up with this and no longer play , then bitch on forums about not being able to get paid , and others hear about it and dont play .
Casinos , start working as hard to process cashouts as you do deposits and maybe things will change again. it shouldnt take a player 30 days to receive a check .
I know for some casinos ACH and check payments will take long and I cannot see that changing anytime soon. Most casinos do know to code transactions and I don’t know who is doing what but on my end our credit card transactions have gone up with less rejections. Our payment methods are QuickTender and ewalletXpress which are fast. Our ACH payments are 15 business days and that does piss players off. When I see this we try to offer them QT or ewx as cashin method and let them know ACH will take longer. Half of the job is having the right processor and the other half of the job is left in the hands of the operator: how well do they inform their US players of their deposit/cashin options, etc… I know on my end I have a few areas to clean up in that aspect but the support agents are always helpful in these areas.
John
Funny, in the past 6 weeks we have also experienced an unbelievable drop in new depositing players. The rest of the stats look fine, but the depositing players are down 10-fold with us (no exaggeration).
Since it doesn’t seem to relate to a specific gambling website, I have to place the blame directly on RTG…
And casinos here a big thing , get rid of withdrawl limits , ive had a few of my big players bitch to me lately that they win and have to wait 3 months to get paid as they can only take out 3k or 4k a week . These are people who spin the slots at 20 or 100 a spin so a few thousand for them to win is nothing .
it is not fair to players that they can deposit unlimited funds every week , but then get screwed if they win and only be able to withdraw 2 or 3 thousand a week . This is compete bullshit from any standpoint . these past few months ive had 6 of my big players contact me and complain about this , telling me they wouldnt play again , and my stats have reflected this .
@the27offsuit 160031 wrote:
And casinos here a big thing , get rid of withdrawl limits , ive had a few of my big players bitch to me lately that they win and have to wait 3 months to get paid as they can only take out 3k or 4k a week . These are people who spin the slots at 20 or 100 a spin so a few thousand for them to win is nothing .
it is not fair to players that they can deposit unlimited funds every week , but then get screwed if they win and only be able to withdraw 2 or 3 thousand a week . This is compete bullshit from any standpoint . these past few months ive had 6 of my big players contact me and complain about this , telling me they wouldnt play again , and my stats have reflected this .
Yea, limits on cashouts are complete bullshit. I try to push the casinos that don’t play these games much harder. $2K a week cashout limit is freakin laughable and not only do these rocket scientists cost themselves money bc these big players find another joint to play at, but they cost me money too and it doesn’t make me happy. It’s just a shitty way to do business, they want to run with the big dogs but they want to payout like a bunch of chumps, its pretty damn annoying.
http://www.casinoaffiliateprograms.com/bb/economic-downturn-impacts-gambling.26452.html?
Analysts have predicted a drop in gaming due to the economy, see above article
Lou has hit the nail on the head. Deposable income is way down with gas prices and the higher costs of living these days. I think everyone is a little shell shocked at this time. I have even notice a slow down at resturants the past few months in my area. My experince this month has been lots of traffic and few new depositing players. The players that are depositing are only depositng small amounts. I think that people in general are negative with all the bad day by day economic news and higher prices for food, gas, electric, and other goods. Every business is going to be effected during times like these. Also I think alot of potential US players are not sure about gambling online when they have seen news saying it is illegal and it’s not. I do know that the operators do have their act together with players being able to make deposits. It is better now than back when Pay Pal pull the plug. Even better than when Net Teller pull out as far as cc processing goes.
I would really like to hear what other affiliates have to say who promote US programs for RTG, MG and Rival. On my end I am still increasing the # of 1st time depositing players but this is in proportion to working with affiliates closer and acquiring new affiliates. To me I don’t see the stats changing and I would probably freak out if I saw my hits/downloads increase but first time depositing players just stop.
Regarding the withdrawal limits let me know if you are referring to any Rival casinos in particular. thisisvegas has a limit of 2k/day and 4k/week. Our limits don’t exactly stack up to the competition and I could probably rhyme off some of the limits we have for the games but no slot games as high as $100 a spin and bj is limited at $250. In the near future we would consider but I really don’t see any complaints at my casino. If we were to offer bets that took in higher amounts with slots that paid out 500k or more on jackpots then this is a silly restriction. Also max deposit here is $1000 per transaction but we are growing and these will disappear on our end with time. Overall we are best dealing with the the average players who like to deposit less than $100 and play with bonuses. It is rare for me to see anyone who deposits higher.
John
@thisisvegas 160089 wrote:
I would really like to hear what other affiliates have to say who promote US programs for RTG, MG and Rival. On my end I am still increasing the # of 1st time depositing players but this is in proportion to working with affiliates closer and acquiring new affiliates. To me I don’t see the stats changing and I would probably freak out if I saw my hits/downloads increase but first time depositing players just stop.
Regarding the withdrawal limits let me know if you are referring to any Rival casinos in particular. thisisvegas has a limit of 2k/day and 4k/week. Our limits don’t exactly stack up to the competition and I could probably rhyme off some of the limits we have for the games but no slot games as high as $100 a spin and bj is limited at $250. In the near future we would consider but I really don’t see any complaints at my casino. If we were to offer bets that took in higher amounts with slots that paid out 500k or more on jackpots then this is a silly restriction. Also max deposit here is $1000 per transaction but we are growing and these will disappear on our end with time. Overall we are best dealing with the the average players who like to deposit less than $100 and play with bonuses. It is rare for me to see anyone who deposits higher.
John
Most of my above statements were for rtg casinos , but below is for john at tiv
John on your slots you can bet $50 a spin , and some of them can pay out pretty good on a feature , so if you have a higher limit player taking 50$ spins it wouldnt be too hard to hit a few thousand .
As for your 4k per week , it should be removed as it is not fair to players to be limited , and another problem is that you can request 2k per day and 4k per week , so if i come to your casino and win 10k , i have to log in today to withdraw 2k , then tommorow for anothr 2k , then wait till next week and do it again , then wait another week for the other 2k , At least make it that a player can request to withdraw all the winnings , then pay them out according to your schedule .
I can’t say when but in the future probably by end of the year we can look at removing the 4k/week. Yes we have higher spins but we don’t have progressives and were don’t have some of the large jackpots you can get at some RTGs but we are growing and this will change. Regarding the issue of players having to login 2 to 3 times to make cashouts I really haven’t had any negative complaints from players. Once we do get progressives and up some of the table limits we will look at removing the 4k restriction per week. As we start offering jackpots that exceed 50k to 100k then this 4k certainly does make the casino look comical. I was surprised to hear larger casinos having more restrictions but I am listening and I have heard some players at Casinomeister ask to loosen these restrictions. I can say by the end of the year this will get addressed once we start increasing betting limits but we won’t keep the same restrictions if we open up our games to higher bets and higher jackpots.
John
