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April 26, 2007 at 2:56 pm #734968
vladcizsolMemberWhat do Simon, Paula and Randy say?
Oh and Rosie? :1Dopey:
April 26, 2007 at 3:13 pm #734970Anonymous
InactiveMy concern is who needs a license, as in, Microgaming, or All properties using Micro? that could lead to some serious downsizing and lost affiliates out there.
and should we all get together and buy a license, hell we could promote our casino top on all our sites lol..
April 26, 2007 at 3:14 pm #734971Anonymous
InactiveHehe…
Joke aside, this bill just does not look good at all :plain:
We are about to tear it apart at OGPaper as there are so much air in it, it’s not even funny.
And as suspected – we got our hopes way too high with Barney Frank…:unhappy:
April 26, 2007 at 3:20 pm #734973Anonymous
InactiveStupid wrote:Hehe…Joke aside, this bill just does not look good at all :plain:
We are about to tear it apart at OGPaper as there are so much air in it, it’s not even funny.
And as suspected – we got our hopes way too high with Barney Frank…:unhappy:
Did you expect a bill that says online gambling is legal in all of US with no regulation?
Reality is a bitch sometimes
April 26, 2007 at 3:26 pm #734975
vladcizsolMemberI have to say in principal I agree with a lot of what the new legislation is setting out to acheive. I have not read the full bill, but I do think regulation is FAR better then the current situation.
I also do not see it as an immediate death knell for affiliates. I promote legal products and services and do quite well on the retail side so I dont think its mandatory that online gambling be in a dark grey area for us to earn good money promoting it.
Nothing is ever going to be 100% perfect and spot on with what everyone wants, but I do feel that this is a step in the right direction and it opens up the dialogue of repeal which is a major accomplishment.
April 26, 2007 at 3:32 pm #734978Anonymous
InactiveWhen they say “Repeal” we didnt take that as “Regulated”. Apperently, Frank needs to go back to English 9 and learn the diference between a verb and a adjective.
He should have said:We will be introducing the law to Regulate the Industry.
But with that said, its early. I personally, dont think this will pass the way it is. Way too much wiggle room. Come on vegas and every Indian reservation in America will immediatly try to get an “Exemption” for their geographical area. So basically; Most on America will still have a ban on online gambling.
2nd; you cant very well ask the legaues if they would like to be excluded. So I can bet on the NFL in vegas, but not online; But the NHL I can bet both?? Too funny in my opinion. That will never fly, im sure that element will be stricken as well.
No concern is the Licensing. Obviously, they are not going to give the green light to everyone out there. So many will be stopped dead in their tracks. The less offshore competition, the less need for Affiliates. Mix in that (you know dam good an well) Land Based casinos Harras etc will be applying for license. Well then, you know they dont need affliates with they marketing machine. Looks like the AF market will be dam near shut down.
April 26, 2007 at 3:33 pm #734979Anonymous
InactiveDid you expect a bill that says online gambling is legal in all of US with no regulation?
I did not expect much and I made a few post yesterday to wait and see what he’s cooking before we give him to much hype…
What I was HOPING for was a repeal of the UIGEA.
April 26, 2007 at 3:36 pm #734980Anonymous
InactiveI personally, dont think this will pass the way it is.
I see we are on the same page here – I agree, this bill will NEVER pass in its current text…EVER
April 26, 2007 at 3:36 pm #734981
vladcizsolMemberQuote:Looks like the AF market will be dam near shut down.Do you consider the current state of affairs preferable?
April 26, 2007 at 3:39 pm #734982Anonymous
InactiveDont get concerned with the issues, repealing the law is part of it, regulating is the mechinism for repealing. This is what we wanted all the time is it not?
As far as vegas goes, they tried online gaming in the past.. and well they dont have it anymore. They for sure will have it again if they can hit US members, but just like all online casino properties, more competion is not a bad thing. You really think vegas would side-step the affiliate marketing? I dont in any possible way.
Like everyone said, its early and theres a lot to be discussed. I would think the exemptions are not going to stand, ie Sporting stuff and places that offer online casinos, as in Navada should have no chance of not allowing off-shore properties.
April 26, 2007 at 3:39 pm #734984
vladcizsolMemberIt would pass with no opposition in a heartbeat if its attached to a must sign bill that the President and the special interests want. IE Iraq funding or something equally unrelated to online gambling.
ANYTHING can be signed into law…. ANYTHING if presented in a such a way that it HAS to be signed.
Would you have said UIEGA could be signed into law in its present form? I think not…
April 26, 2007 at 3:43 pm #734986Anonymous
InactiveIt would pass with no opposition in a heartbeat if its attached to a must sign bill that the President and the special interests want. IE Iraq funding or something equally unrelated to online gambling.
For this to go that far it would have to pass the House first. Realistically – there is no chance of this bill going anywhere anytime soon.
April 26, 2007 at 3:44 pm #734987Anonymous
InactiveProfessor wrote:I have to say in principal I agree with a lot of what the new legislation is setting out to acheive. I have not read the full bill, but I do think regulation is FAR better then the current situation.I also do not see it as an immediate death knell for affiliates. I promote legal products and services and do quite well on the retail side so I dont think its mandatory that online gambling be in a dark grey area for us to earn good money promoting it.
Nothing is ever going to be 100% perfect and spot on with what everyone wants, but I do feel that this is a step in the right direction and it opens up the dialogue of repeal which is a major accomplishment.
Exactly my thoughts.
I am in support of it, unless I find out about additional snags later.
April 26, 2007 at 3:49 pm #734989Anonymous
InactiveI agree with the Prof,
Personally, I like the bill and have no problem with it. It’s modeled after the MA state lottery and the state casinos. Lottery agents are basically affiliates, getting a % off each sale or ticket cashed.
Other affiliate programs like Google, Clickbank and Linkshare just send me my comissions when they say they’re going to, no bs, no song and dance routine and they don’t make it sound like they’re doing me a favor when they’re really just paying me what is owed to me in the first place.
Hopefully they’ll move it along quickly.
April 26, 2007 at 3:53 pm #734990Anonymous
InactiveI am in support of it, unless I find out about additional snags later.
Here is a snag – there are only 11 states with privatly owned casinos (total of 29 if we include the Indian casinos).
So those 11 states that Microgaming does not allow – those are the only states where onlne gambling would be legal, and that’s if they don’t introduce their local anit-online gambling laws…
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