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  • #708918
    Anonymous
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    1. No matter what happens I definitely reccommend moving your hosting outside the United States.

    2. Regarding the .com domain I believe that even if you move it to a different registrar, ICANN (http://www.icann.org) which is based in the US can still do something about it.

    #708928
    Anonymous
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    Maybe could be wise to start the moving of the hosting ouitside the US right now.
    With the law signed , hosting companies simply will see gambling sites as an illegal activity.
    I can’t see them making an study on each particular case.

    On the registrar , that’s different IMO.

    #708978
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    What would be the effects in terms of ranking on Yahoo and Google of hosting in the UK. I ask this because many people leaving outside US uses the .com version and not the country one.

    #709041
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    1. Done.
    2. Done.

    #709053
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Since I have my sites on a non us server I’m not to worried about point 1, but the second point is something I don’t really like.. As said a .com domain is a US based domain, however it’s used all over the world. One could say there is little problem for non-us people to use a .com domain to promote gambling to non-us players.. But I read that it would be illegal to use a .com domain to promote gambling no matter where you are from.

    And then what would happen? Will the FBI come travel to me? And if they come to me, will they also visit the other 1000 affiliates in europe for example?

    If anybody has some extra information regarding this I’d love to hear about it..

    #709080
    Anonymous
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    Chipeez wrote:
    And then what would happen? Will the FBI come travel to me? And if they come to me, will they also visit the other 1000 affiliates in europe for example?

    US law does not apply in Europe. Europe is not under FBI jurisdiction.

    #709083
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    As said a .com domain is a US based domain

    This is actually technically inaccurate. .COM is indeed an international TLD extension.

    .US being the United States own TLD.

    #709086
    Anonymous
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    Webzcas wrote:
    This is actually technically inaccurate. .COM is indeed an international TLD extension.

    .US being the United States own TLD.

    Absolutely correct. And that’s why there is a resolution dated 2000 in order to allow for international characters (meaning non-US characters) on com domains.

    #709089
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Believe it or not, I am opening another gambling site right now but should I opt for something other than .com ? Which extension is the safest now?

    #709091
    Anonymous
    Inactive
    sharpgambler wrote:
    US law does not apply in Europe. Europe is not under FBI jurisdiction.

    Of course.. I know, but that is why I asked.. What would they do if we continue to promote gambling.. As long as your site is on a non-us server and perhaps blocking us visitors, it looks to me that you are pretty save.

    About the .com domain, I was under the impression (like pearlgaming said) that a .com domain always originates from the us and therefor subject to us law?

    #709107
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Well then you think they will take domains like 888.com bwin.com betfair.com sportingbet.com?

    #709117
    Anonymous
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    sharpgambler wrote:
    Many of the issues recently discussed concern the effects of the new bill to US affiliates. Since the implications on non US are much different,

    If your site targets US punters you are no different than a US affiliate in that particular respect. If your non us site blocks US access then I would agree you probably do not have much to worry about.

    #709124
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Blocking US IP’s can be done ( my programmer has done this for me on other countries ) .. But instead of blocking them you could send user to another website that has nothing to do with gambling.

    #709172
    Anonymous
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    axl wrote:
    If your site targets US punters you are no different than a US affiliate in that particular respect. If your non us site blocks US access then I would agree you probably do not have much to worry about.

    That’s wrong of course.

    A person from the UK with a site in the UK, have the laws of UK and not US laws. If it is wrong to gamble in the US, it isn’t in UK. So the site respects the law. That person does not have to block access from anyone. People from US are responsible for their acts, and that people must respect their laws. The only entity that can take any steps into blocking anything is the governement of USA. That entity can order an ISP, within USA to block access to foreign websites.

    Do you think I have to compile a list of 300 countries in the world, study their own laws and block access as needed, or do you think I only have to do that for USA? Again, with all the respect, USA is not the world, and US laws apply to US.

    And if online gambling is ilegal in the USA, it means that for a US citizen it would be ilegal to advertise it even if blocking access from US citizens. Otherwise would be like saying selling drug to Americans is ilegal, but because it isn’t at country X, I can export it.

    And, also, censorship is ilegal at my country, so I can’t block access to a website.

    #709176
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    1. I’m in the process of moving over all of my hosting to the uk.

    2. Afterwards I will move to a nonusa based registrar.

    3. I will no longer set foot on US soil. I was never comfortable with visiting anyway, if I want to support a communist country Cuba is beautiful and they actually give free health care.

    I also recommend to all my US friends that you commence the process of relocating.

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