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  • #655791
    Anonymous
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    I’ve seen similar dramatic changes in conversions at Casinoblasters the last couple of months. VERY strong signups in August, weak signups in September. Haven’t checked October yet…

    Revenue-wise I’m still doing very well with them from my existing player base, but the conversion change does seem odd.

    #655799
    Anonymous
    Guest

    One of my best performing programs, Casino Blasters, delivered me one depositing player last month.

    This month hasn’t delivered any so far.

    This is really bothering me. The conversion rate I’ve been getting from them the past month breaks records for poor performing casino programs.

    #655801
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Playtech has been stinkin’ it up for a few months now…

    And when people do play, they tend to be awfully lucky. Just in the last three or four months I have had several winners to the tune of $50,000+ and over $35,000 cashed out…

    Reminds me of “Stairway to Heaven”… sing it with me:

    “…and it makes me wonder…”

    #655803
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Ok, I think I see a pattern merging here… I have studyed my stats and well.. they ain’t pretty.

    For example Casino Partners has received 753 Clicks since last mont. Normally this would mean an average of 137 Downloads, 30 Players and 12 Depositors. Now the numbers are= 75 Downloads, 6!! Players and 1 Depositor – can someone explain the differense?

    And then there’s Casino Blasters.. well normally I get a new depositor for every 8 Downloads… now since 26th of last month there has been 45 Downloads and no new Depositors..??

    If this is the trend then I guess I can say good bye to both of them.

    #655804
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Originally posted by Integrity
    Playtech has been stinkin’ it up for a few months now…

    And when people do play, they tend to be awfully lucky. Just in the last three or four months I have had several winners to the tune of $50,000+ and over $35,000 cashed out…

    Reminds me of “Stairway to Heaven”… sing it with me:

    “…and it makes me wonder…”

    Well ain´t this nice.. I was just complaining to CasinoBlasters that they seem to have VERY lucky players.. From all the deposits I have brought there the house have made a gross profit around 25% … I think that the casino should normally do around 80%.

    It seems that the bigger the player – the luckier it is ;)

    #655805
    Anonymous
    Guest

    I started promoting Blasters just 3 months ago, and had great conversions until September.

    In August:

    637 visitors
    26 downloads
    10 players
    15 fun players
    Total Deposits: $4,462.00
    Amount Earned: $1,317.94
    – and someone had cashed out $800.00

    August’s conversions is why I let them have more traffic in September……..

    My stats last month (September) with Blasters:

    Total 1067 visitors
    20 downloads
    4 players
    16 fun players
    Total Deposits: $150.00
    Amount earned: $54.00

    I talked to my aff manager, asking him if there was a bug in the software or something! Apparently there is nothing wrong with the stats software.

    #655900
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Ok, I have had it!

    it’s time to do some cleaning in time for winter :) I mean I have now watched these stats that show normal amount of clicks and downloads, but oddly there seems to be very few players and NO new depositors! To top it of it seems I have almost no active old players.. so much for retaining players and generating stable income.

    If you have some GOOD non selective casino groups(ones that treat us all equally) to suggest then post some 2-tier links for me to visit. I mean really, do they think that I am gonna just watch when they take my livelyhood away. I mean it could be a fluke(not), but how can it be that there are so many similar experienses and the programs DIE very suddenly even though the traffic remains the same? And some other programs do business as usual… They Say Bad Luck – Yeah, right – I think it’s better to smell the shaving cream and run away.

    #655901
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Yes, same here, good conversions before (when I started out with them), I have stopped promoting them for some time, been really back in September… Awful conversions in September ($23 earned), then so far this month, 111 clicks, 0 downloads, 2 fun players, $0.00.

    Amazing, when especially I consider that I promote also the flash versions, and I receive on that particular page, people searching at Google for “no download gambling”, “no download flash casinos”, “no download keno”, “no download online blackjack” etc… (I don’t insist on the value of these searches – I think you probably know what they are worth). The other casinos on this particular page perform on 1/20 unique in general converted in a real player.

    :confused:

    Sure that with these results, next month they are all gone, for a long time.

    #655902
    vladcizsol
    Member

    Guys this has all the earmarks of Payment Processing problems.

    I have seen a huge drop off in terms of new player sign ups this month also at PLAYTECH casinos ONLY. Everyone else is moving along nicely. When we see something like this I tend to believe the Payment Processors are having touble getting charges thru.

    Hopefully this will be sorted out shortly, it generally is.

    #655903
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Originally posted by Professor
    Guys this has all the earmarks of Payment Processing problems.

    I have seen a huge drop off in terms of new player sign ups this month also at PLAYTECH casinos ONLY. Everyone else is moving along nicely. When we see something like this I tend to believe the Payment Processors are having touble getting charges thru.

    Hopefully this will be sorted out shortly, it generally is.

    Hmm.. I am not sure if I buy that, because if it were a processing issue than I guess it should affect us all in the same time and all the Playtechs should also act so in the same time, but as stated here the things are quite crossed. I had a perfect September with Blasters and Fergie had quite the opposite plus I had an awful month with Casino Partners in the same time as Blasters were kicking it. To more proof I can say that Casino Pays seems to do quite good even though they are the least promoted program of those 3 so I dont think it’s an processing problem – correct me if I am wrong.

    Ps. If it were a processing problem why wouldn’t the casinos admid to it and safe face and affiliates. since if the things are just ignored and they keep givin us these lame excuses like.. we can’t control the players or maybe you have lost your traffic or some other BS like that – Then I say to hell with them, I cant do business like that, never knowing if you are going to be getting food on the table.

    #655904
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    They wouldn’t tell us if it was a processing problem because most of us would not send players until the problem is fixed.

    Of course they may be shooting themselves in the foot with that because those of us with many sites would not pull them for processing problems (too much work) but would for bad performance.

    Personally, I am turning over a new leaf and pulling rapidly for bad performance from now on. I have lingered on with some programs for way to long just because I liked them. I am going to be much more efficient from now on, you don’t realize how much money is lost by carrying programs that do not convert..

    #655909
    Anonymous
    Inactive

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    I have lingered on with some programs for way to long just because I liked them. I am going to be much more efficient from now on, you don’t realize how much money is lost by carrying programs that do not convert..


    now if only more affiliates would do the same … too many

    affiliates are sending alot of programs free traffic with little or no

    rewards in return … Can you blame any program for not

    ” performing ” when many affiliates don’t ask for much

    in return ?

    :rolleyes:

    #655912
    Anonymous
    Guest

    listen to this guy above me folks! His wisdom is great.

    As some of the older ones here know; I’ve been a bitcher about weeding your gardens for a long time now.

    By leaving up links to casinos that don’t produce, or that are so obviously stinking it up with their constant winners and constant low profits that need I put a label on them (and for me; that stinker is Focal Point, Goodness I’d like just a tenth of the traffic back I wasted there; though I know there a couple of folks that do ok with them, for the majority I have talked with; its much the same as my experience)

    that we are “enabling” these obvious parasites to continue to survive (and I imagine quite effortlessly since they aren’t paying out anything substantial), plus they are going to feed on all the newbies to fall victim to their incompetent promises / constant winning players etc.

    My personal method is that when I have a program reach a point I must act: I first move them to a back page which lists a wide variety of casinos; but is never in the front lights; so to speak.

    Now after doing that; while keeping in mind that by putting them back there they will be recieving much less traffic so I don’t have to expect them to perform immediately; but say after about 4 or 5 months if they’ve still not produced anything and yet my stats show they’ve had ample oppurtunity; I pull them completely.

    I very much beleive that though it may not be true for all surfers, that there is a large enough percentage of them that arrive ready to grab a casino and get gambling; and following that line of thinking; then it is easy to assume that they will sign up at whatever casinos I am offering them.

    So why risk offering them casinos that have proven to be unworthy of your resources?

    Those people out of that traffic that are really looking for variety are going to be the types to dig further into your site anyway; so as I see it; there’s little downside to my method.

    Not too mention something that few gambling webmasters ever consider; but is well-known in the adult industry.

    You can serve too much and end up confusing the surfer.

    its true, think about the last time you went to sign up for a domain name or hosting, and left the site because it was too confusing / or too much to pick from in options etc; to warrant your wasting your time wading thru the mess when all you really wanted was to sign up a new domain name. (godaddy comes to mind; as I once used it quite often, now there’s too much BS to wade thru to bother using them).

    I realize that is not a great example to make my point; but hopefully it will suffice.

    The bottom line is; is if they aren’t proftable; why keep them around?

    As to Dom’s statement about keeping them up cause she liked them;

    This is business. If you want a nice partner that doesn’t ever make you money; hell send your traffic to me. I’ll write a thank you note to you everyday.

    With all the nearly countless shakedowns, rip-offs, scumware etc going on nowdays, I don’t see how one could survive if they don’t start cracking down on the parasites.

    #655913
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    There is no such thing as Focal Point, it’s Focal Click, Steve.

    #655920
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    I have two casino affiliate programs that I I promoted since I started a year ago. I have many many hits but no conversions. I sent both affiliate managers an email telling them that I was pulling their sites from my site because they didn’t convert. I got their response the next day and basically what the said was that I didn’t send them enough traffic and they were honest and fair. The day after I received their email, low and behold I started to convert players and make some money. What I justly thought was that they were shaving me bad.

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