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Marcos111
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Originally Posted by Winneraff
Let’s clarify some facts regarding your affiliate account at Winner Affiliates:
Someone contacted Winner Affiliates and asked for a CPA deal, and a special poker promotion at Winner.com. He claimed that he is representing a poker site, and that he can generate decent traffic.

from the beginning i told hanan that i`m not the owner of these sites but i`m working with them and am able to send a lot of new player-think 56 depositing players for the first month is not bad

Soon after the promotion began we realized that all players are depositing exactly 20EUR. 100% of these players tried to make a deposit. Most players who managed to deposit at Winner.com, never logged back to their account. These are clear signs of a CPA abuser. Why would one deposit money at a poker room, but never play?

20 euro is the minimum deposit that a player have to make. the players signed up cause they want to play the tournament with the added pricepool. i don`t believe that noone of them is coming back and noone of them is playing poker.

why should they make bigger deposits if you only offer a 200 $ bonus at a rate with 100 points per bonusdollar ?

you are part of a big network with about 40 pokerrooms and the most of them offer much better bonuses than you !

why should they play at winnerpoker when you offer nothing special ? if you want to grow fast and become a big one in this network you have to do- maybe only my thought

maybe offering a big tournament just before xmas to getting new players was a mistake

i offered you a couple off times to run a rakerace with prices that i pay and i`m sure that all these players would like this and play much more but never get an answer on this

why are you not working together with your affiliates if they try to drive the results going better ?

We have a fraud team which immediately noticed this subspecies activity, and informed us of the problem.
We sent an email to the owner of the poker site, informing him of the trouble with one of his moderators (apparently you). The owner of the site claimed that you are his friend, but he then created his own affiliate account.
Due to the confusing situation we asked not to send anymore traffic, and we offered the person 50% revenue share for this fraud traffic.

you have made a deal with me so it doesn`t matter what the siteowner is doing !
We ask for more time to investigate, but you chose to post disinformation on good affiliate forums.

i tell the story from my site cause i have no proof that the things you are saying are true and i know that some players are playing

Our affiliate program is relatively new, yet we already paid thousands of affiliates. We pay full amounts, on time, even if the traffic looks bad, but why should we pay for fraud?

maybe my players are bad (not playing much or didn`t find the time to play because xmas) but how could they be fraud if they all are playing in the tournament ?

how could they be fraud if they are able to withdraw money after proving their identity ?

so saying you pay the full amount on time even if the traffic looks bad can`t be true

all the players you get are real players who made a deposit and qualify for a cpa-so you have to pay my comission

We have a huge budget for player acquisition, a very good product, and an experienced team of dedicated affiliate managers. They are here to manage real affiliates, and establish healthy business relationships
If you want to discuss further then contact me personally ilan @ WinnerAffiliates.com, or call me +44-800-0470-700.
Cost Per Acquisition (CPA)

Winner.com offers its affiliates a very competitive CPA commission rate for real depositing poker players. You will receive a guaranteed flat rate for every new depositing player that you refer. The more players you bring, the more money per player you make. This structure delivers commission regardless of whether the player you referred wins or loses.

Commission Tables

The tables below set forth the consideration that applies to the Revenue Share and to the CPA payment plans. Table A shows the percentage levels that are set monthly according to your account’s Casino Net Revenue. Table B shows the percentage levels that are set monthly according to your account’s Poker Net Revenue. Table C shows the percentage levels that are set monthly according to your account’s Bingo Net Revenue. Table D shows the stages of the Casino CPA payment plan, in accordance with the number of new qualifying Players that you directed to the Sites each month. Table E shows the stages of the Poker CPA payment plan, in accordance with the number of new qualifying Players that you directed to the Sites each month. Table F shows the stages of the Bingo CPA payment plan, in accordance with the number of new qualifying Players that you directed to the Sites each month.

CPA Plan – Poker:

1 to 10 new players per month – $70 CPA per player
11 to 20 new players per month – $80 CPA per player
21 to 30 new players per month – $95 CPA per player
31 to 40 new players per month – $120 CPA per player
41 to 50 new players per month – $135 CPA per player
51 new players and more per month – $150 CPA per player

*A “new player” is a player directed by you who makes a minimum initial deposit of $20.