Oh and just wanted to add that I personally have made a few strong solid friendships from affiliate managers and I have actually traveled to stay with them on my own dime. I don’t promote their brands any longer because of the friendship and we never talk business to each other. So I have to disagree on that part. But I do agree that most of them will tell you what they think you want to hear and they are not got be confused for friends ever, they have a job to do and that is the bottom line. I do know that Irwin was not responsible in this case and I don’t consider him a friend, he is just a nice guy in a bad situation. I hope Pat has learned from this and guards herself against this sort of confusion in the future.