I hear you Prof. I have the combo of BetCris, Bookmaker, DSI for over 2+ years now, and I get decent traffic. I have never had 10 active players a week, ever. I have over 100 registered between them and still would not get over 10 a week. Total crap, what really blows is some of my users really like DSI. Now I need to try to steer them away, without offending.