I wouldn’t dare turn to the dark side, they are blackhatters after all, mobsters yes. But for the people writing the scripts for the life of me I can’t figure it out, why? But it seems Janet endorses such methods, I find that interesting. Maybe I will dig up some good court cases on the issue. If blackhatter techniques were so okay I wonder why Google put out Jagger, 1,2,3 wasn’t the main goal to weed out these unsavy characters? greek39^*