Yah, I get your frustration Greek. That is one thing that blackhats all have in common. Because their online marketing knowledge is restricted they often fail to see the difference between White hat and Blackhat strategies. I mean often they will refer to Whitehats wearing Grey hats. They feel that SEO in itself is an act of SERP manupilation. This often can’t be argued by the people that are debating with them as these people often do not have the knowledge to debate with them. I have read Janet’s pointless missleading posts and actually think that this lady really needs to get a life. Do not turn to the darkside. The mobster’s life is truelly not worth living.