I am finding some of these blackhatters/malicious hackers have some high degree of intelligence. Some have contributed so much to the internet be it security, firewall improvments, hold patents, and yet somewhere along the way they turn corrupt. Is it greed? I ran into this one fellow and I am truely amazed over all that he had accomplished. Its’so unfortunate when people let money govern their lives. This guy who I won’t name, was as dedicated as they come. I wonder why he turned in on himself, he had so much too offer all of us. greek39^*