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Reply To: Content scraping – the final solution and reality check

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lots0 wrote:
Janet I do not disagree with you about building good sites, it really is the only way to go. I just disagree that building a good site is ALL you can do to protect yourself.

if this is what you understood then, i was not explaining my self right, building good sites is only a small part of the solution to be done by the webmaster, doing SEO is much more then this, linkage, directories and all of the text book stuff, I fully agree with you on this point.

lots0 wrote:
As for my plan of action. Well… I do not intend to sit around and cry about someone stealing my content or attacking my site (well actually I will whine and bitch about it a lot and I do mean a lot… I just can’t help myself). But I also intend to continue to take whatever actions I can to protect my property from attack and theft.

I like this, i am trying to learn from you here what can be done since i have the same attitute

lots0 wrote:
BTW – Make no mistake, the current scraping attempt by 888 on all the sites that blacklisted them is an attack and not just some lame attempted theft.

I never looked into it this way but if you say so i am sure you can back it up, since it is not the issue of the thread i will not dig here into it but would love you or someone who has knowladge about this to open up another thread and discuss this there, i think from the educational prespective it can be very educating for a lot of people and can drive some hard reactions if what you are saying is right, I am simply the sort of person that usually do not jump into conclousions and the fact that there is FUD that someone spread is not a fact, i am always looking for the fact (I think most of the good SEO take the same way of thinking since so much fake info is out there where people speculated and after the speculation being posted a few times other readers see this as a fact)

now let’s get into the real meat here:

lots0 wrote:
Simple things like blocking all but known and approved bots from your site and block any browsers that act like a bot.

no, they will either go to the google cache or the internet archive or simply take the snippets from the SERPs, unless you want to block google :popcorn:

lots0 wrote:
There is no one single solution, a combination of actions are required. Protect your site first

true, this is a good strategy , but how, blocking the spiders will not do it6 since your content is published in the SE and other services (even cashe devices of ISPs which is scraped

lots0 wrote:
then there are things you can do like reporting the scrapers to the affiliate programs, search engines, their ISP or their Host if they are using a Hosting company and report phony domain registrations. These things are all a pain in the ass and they take time and some effort but they do work when used in concert… most of the time.

all true, but lets get a reality check , we all know that in the race between creatng scraper sites and reporting them, there is no way you can catch up. they will win the race, some of their sites will be banned most of them not.

lots0 wrote:
There are also several places like CAP where these scumbags and their actions can be brought to public attention and people can work together to stomp out these parasites (kinda like we are doing now).

ok, work together doing what, this is what we are trying to nail down, how do you fight, in a menner that you have a chance

lots0 wrote:
Then if all these actions fail… I personally like to turn down the lights and take the gloves off… and no I am not going to discuss what I mean by that. ;)

yep, I do read you load and clear, but how may people here have the capability of doing it , or even to intention to get into something which meight put them in gail

In regard to your “revenge” or “wanted dead or alive” scenario, there is an old adage that states: “every time you seek revenge, bring two shovels.” Not only will you dig a grave for the one you seek, but you will dig one for yourself as well. Revenge does not work!

what does work, i do not know, as i see it we are still trying to find this out, so please everyone IDEAS … we can expand the discussion, the more people thinking about the subject the better chances are that we will find a solution
(or not :banger: )