I have been following this thread closely and am very disappointed with not only results but also the facts and claims associated with the collection process.
First of all I do agree with Gooner Paul that anyone who supports this industry (or any industry) for that matter must first understand the business. The stats
With all due respect…Regarding the laws of Canada (where I reside) for that matter the ability to use the telephone to collect monies owed is the prime vehicle for collection. Just because a debtor says “Don’t call me anymore” does not mean that forbids the collection agency from calling again. That is insane.
Here are the very basic rules of the game in Canada
xhttp://strategis.ic.gc.ca/epic/internet/inoca-bc.nsf/en/ca01485e.html
With respect regarding in Canada… “Collection Agencies are not allowed to take legal actions for a client.” Where did you get that from?
Here is an excerpt from the Canadian rules….”While rules vary across Canada, generally collection agencies are forbidden from doing the following: recommending or starting legal or court action to collect a debt without first notifying you and obtaining the creditor’s (the company to whom you owe money) written permission;”
Brain, I had high hopes for you not only in the online gambling business but other industries that we work in. The stats pages provided by most merchant programs are fairly standard and in total control of the merchant.
We as affiliates do our best to weed out the bad apples but there are valid claims here and the defence of Vegas Frontier is B.S.
To give you an analogy….This claim is similar to a commission only based sales reps attempting to make a claim against the company in which they sold products for and were not paid for those commissions. Of course the sales, inventory and all reports are in the possession of the company…and in most cases the sales rep. is at the mercy of the accuracy of those reports. The company can claim a host of things such as return products, non-payment, etc.
The collector has to fight through that on behalf of the client and the supplied information. Is that not what your service is for?
Otherwise, we should stick to the legal process and band together with our multiple claims.
Your communication here indicates that you are of the opinion that Vegas Frontier’s defence is valid and that we should deal with firms who “provide more accurate and easy to understand stats pages”. What the heck does that mean?
I know there was a number of us who were encouraged by the potential benefit of your services and were watching this thread closely as a case study in progress. I had a number of claims with non-gambling based merchants that I was going to throw at you if there was any degree of success here…now I know I should not waste my time.
With respect to Vegas Frontier…there obviously is a bigger issue here that affiliates need to deal with.
Respectfully,
Jamie