Hi worldpeace,
don’t count msn out! since new sites are sandboxed by google, msn is the first hope of getting search engine traffic, and then yahoo…at least that is my expericence.
I first do on page optimisation which makes msn happy, and then once that’s finished i concentrate on exchanging links which suppoisedly makes google and yahoo happy and wait for a year for google to decide the site is worthy of being shown on the serps…:angry: but what can you do?