Hi Dean,
sorry bout that; I do tend to get rhetoric when it seems that what I’m telling them isn’t sinking in.
Where did you get the idea I thought conversions were terrible everywhere?
I’m guessing because I had cut out the stats data that was included in the letter to Lloyd.
No, I’m bitching at Lloyd (Brightshare) because they suck; and have going on better than 3 months straight.
to the point that last month they even made me less than referback despite my sending them a lot of quality traffic
honestly, the over-exposed gaming club (IMO) would have not done worse than all of Spiral’s casinos have been doing.
And I’ve been pretty patient with them figuring maybe we had hit a bad strectch in the road; but crap, I’m now making a tenth of what I was making with them; and there’s no reason why things should have fallen off to that point.
Even Lloyd admits things need to pick up.
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sorry to anybody that thought I was just wanting to whine.
for me; this is usually how I find out to stay away / start cutting back traffic to a particular program – is when somebody steps up and says “hey, these guys are starting to suck….”
plus I figured if anybody else is having similar results with BS (you gotta love the thinking that went into choosing a name with those intitials 
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that they might like to hear what Lloyd had to say.