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Reply To: Bonus Abuse – Dangerous Subject

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TESTjohnTEST
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@the_soc 242486 wrote:

:-) I took the critiques fine. I understand what you and TopCasino are saying, but if a person tries to use a betting strategy while using a bonus, I can see why a casino would feel that the bonus was not being used “in good spirit” – that issue of “spirit of the bonus” is a criticism that’s come up in the forums many times against casinos’ sanctions.

“Bonus Abuse” doesn’t mean a player has to invent the wheel, it could be as simple as using betting tactics to gain an advantage. That’s legitimate on it’s own (I don’t know how much so in a land based casino though), but if it includes using casino bonuses, I can see where a casino would be skeptical of continuing to give such a player bonuses.

Yes, I do think there are ways of beating online casinos, and the cornerstone of the approach is, discipline. To bet and behave in ways that most people would be too ashamed or too intimidated to do in land based casinos. It’s as simple as playing one or two rounds on a game like roulette, BJ etc., winning and logging out. Logging back in, playing another round or few and logging out when you’re up on the casino.

You can gamble that way with your own funds and not necessarily with bonuses. As such, “bonus abuse” is a term that can be confused with “advantage play” where no bonuses are involved. They both use overlapping tactics.

I do not agree that it is possible to beat a casino. The mathematics of the games are just simply in the advantage of the casino.

But I did come to another thread in one of the pokerforums I am in, where a guy got a $25 bonus (No deposit) to play with a wager of 35x. He calculated by playing the optimal blackjack strategy this has an expected value of +$17,50 if the odds came out as expected beforehand. I think this is kind of what you mean, the_soc? But without bonuses the odds will always be in the casino’s advantage.