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Reply To: Quotas – a rant that needs to be aired

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OK this is my second try. Had a whole post written out but IE closed itself for no bloody good reason whatsoever..

Spearmaster;206839 wrote:
You probably already have terms which prevent the so-called “offsetting” or “zero-margin” bets – you should be disqualifying the player, not the affiliate. If you are using a wager model (what in Asia is known as rolling – being paid a percentage of all bets) you definitely need to protect against this type of betting.

In this case I do not agree that an additional term needs to be placed into the affiliate T&Cs.

I was only explaining reasons why I disagree, not telling you that there should be a T&C against this. We already have one and this is why:

There is also the case of affiliate fraud here. An affiliate who knows the player sends the player to play at one of our casinos, placing these kind of bets to make money through the affiliate account with no loss on the player side. Thats why it is in the affiliate T&Cs. Not all affiliates are genuine (even though we would all like to think they are). This is why I am disagreeing with the post that I said I was disagreeing with… I guess that point was not made clear by me?

Spearmaster wrote:
LOL. While I certainly understand this point, I cannot see how you could possibly detect it anyhow unless both casinos were within your group. I remember how bundling became a big issue a few years ago, and it’s probably not such a good idea to start bundling now.

We have 19 brands. Of course I meant the two casinos were at the same group.. I thought it was obvious I was talking about within the same group – Sorry, Ill make sure I explain a little clearer next time.

Spearmaster wrote:
In this case I would suggest that you introduce a term which relates to a player having multiple accounts across the group, which allows you to combine balances in certain definable situations, such as a win of $10K or more at one casino – not too dissimilar from those groups who fence off certain players. Plus, CR already links the multiple casino accounts in the backend (or did the last time I checked) – so this should be easy to show.

Again, was only giving an example of my disagreement. We already have a term for this.

Spearmaster wrote:
Care to share? You’ll probably find it faster than I will :)

Nope because I can’t post links.

Ok ok it was a cheap attempt at getting people to visit our website, but the T&C is:

No affiliate can profit from an account generated by themselves or by a relation of any kind to the affiliate member. If an affiliate is caught profiting from an account generated by themselves they will forfeit any earnings they have made and their account will be terminated. [/quote]