Hi all (Gold)
well an example of stealing players might well be when you land a good player and they make good money a month or two …. and then are gone. Then you get a letter from that player saying they signed up at that casino in the group and when they have a problem they are playing at that casino where you signed them and the player is asking for help and you’re like ……. but I’m not showing any income at that casino. That is a big freakin’ red flag your player was pretty obviously stolen.
basically its where they take that good player off your account. That in my book is stealing.
its one thing to cross-promote and not give credit. While I’m very big against it ….. especially with most programs …… the reason for that is that many programs won’t even bother to cross-promote without adding your tags yet you don’t see continued income at the casino you originally landed the player.
I have a pretty good relationship with many of my players and I’d know if that happened (not in all cases but it would show up eventually as I’ve caught programs doing that). That is out and out stealing.
I might be wrong in saying this (and I hope i’m wrong and they correct me) …… but I think CR does cross-promote with CDs without our tags in them. But I consider it lesser of two evils and am willing to live with it though I wish they’d change that …. and God I hope I’m saying this right because I don’t want to mis-represent CR.
But like I said ….. at least they give you credit for the life-time of the player as long as they are playing at the casino you signed them at. I have been all over in my years. Brightshare and Casino Rewards are the ones that I know have players playing from literally years back. That’s cool with me even if I risk losing them to cross-promos that don’t include my tags because also as mentioned i make a point to ask surfers to return to my site to sign up at any other sister casino in the above groups ….. though I think Brightshare even gives credit for cross-promos. I know they do for when a player switches to the VIP casino. *Kudos.
Stealing a player has to do with that player disappearing from the casino you signed them up at in the beginning.
Keep in mind…. back in the day most aff programs that cheated us didn’t even give us enough respect to bother to steal. they just completely shaved … now IMHO …. the approach is to steal players proven to make money month after month and show all conversions because it makes the aff think they are still doing good….. they never question why they don’t continue to grow in a player base …… of players that continue to play.
Yes you’ll see the ones that don’t ever play. makes the aff programs (in question…. the ones cheating) ….. look good because you continue to get conversions and it appears to those not experienced …. they are gaining. while in fact they are only gaining if they get new players every month. Where are the old players?
People are creatures of habit. I still play at casinos I joined more than 5 years ago. yet at some of those …..I am the only one still showing as playing even though I’ve sent considerable real money players over the years. Am I the only one out of all those that ever stays loyal. Ever returns to play? Highly doubtful.
Bottom line my friend! If your income doesn’t continue to grow while you continue to send more and more players….. you’re getting screwed or else the casino is so incompetent they aren’t worthy of sending more players because its like sending good money after bad.
And Vegas Partners is a real stinker about that. I started out making good money with them and the more exposure I gave them …. the fewer and fewer income I saw until it was nothing and I strongly suspect I made good money at first until they got exposed to my surfer base and then things fell off to nothing. This was a huge contrast to what i first saw in the first couple or three months. How is it that I saw such great numbers and then even though I was sending more traffic ….. it fell off to nothing. Doesn’t make sense other than something was fishy or they are so incompetent they can’t keep a player and I know they DO play players (or used to) … so there’s no reason I should have seen such a drop off. And yes VP .. you deserve everything I said and I know there are others that have experienced same and while I did not call you cheats….. I do say if not that ….. then you are so incompetent that you are unworthy of promoting. *and I bet even those still promoting them and making some money …. have not seen an increase even though they keep sending players. ** and yes … this all happened before the new laws in the states so that has nothing to do with it.
I can elaborate if that didn’t make my point.