Firstly can I just say the work from Dhayman has been outstanding and I have seen the issue raised on other forums but this thread is the first one that has cracked it! And cracked it down to Dhaymans determination and greeks tech skills
With so much bad press towards gambling and the general complaints about spam, CAP really should PR the information.
Dhaymans frustration combined with all other affiliates that in recent weeks have seen spam multiply and lots of people have had issues with G traffic dropping this thread highlights a much wider G issue.
I know people have been sending in Spam reports and pointed out problems but I really believe suggestions of collusion are wrong. Yes it does happen in all big companies, but this type of “hacking” spam attack questions some major points of the foundation that the overall algo is written on.
In my opinion the reason why the reaction from G has been so slow is they dont know what to do.
We have a situation where based on the foundations of the overall algo, age old sites with trusted attributes are now appearing as link/blog spam posts everywhere. So who do I trust ?- that has to be one of there questions when probably not down to the plone angle but the same CMS workaround I have seen a stanford.edu casino page. So I am sure there are multiple plone/cms attacks happening
All of a sudden trustedunidomain.edu is now appearing everywhere as spam links for Pills and Gambling. Sites they probably never considered would appear as the issues when the days of piggy backing onto blogs/sites with major trust levels was surely over
This is now going on for weeks and Yahoo who was generally the worst of them all for showing top 10 spam results now in a lot of cases has a cleaner top 20 results than G.
The “Plone” angle is now looking dead for these guys but surely they thought of that. If anything I would imagine the new angle is up and running for the last few weeks. We are not dealing with amatuers, you do not end up as No 1 on the Rokso Spamhaus list for being a minor player
And my last point of this very long post is that even though G may have issues with gambling and pharma clients overall, if these guys can bulldoze there way into the top 10 reasonably easily, that ability means they could spam “shoes” and still make money, so I would be amazed if heaviest traffic categories of Finance, Travel and Ecommerce are not being planned for or being done
Whats there margin – bandwidth? Top 10 of G for 100’s of KW’s for a category and all you had to do was worry about the bandwith costs and the price of a few developers and of course I’m there paying all the income they get so are paying huge amounts of tax :huh2:
With there current practise I am pretty sure its Shiny Fast Cars and serious bank balances all the way
Even with the new G algo release as I have said above the reason you dont see “swift immediate action” is for the moment they have beaten the algo and whats the point in killing one fly when there are 1000 around the corner
I am sure they would rather wait and exterminate the lot once and for all but thanks to the work on this thread I think it creates some very powerful question for Googs next step if they want to remain no 1 in the search wars