lots0,
I know google is totally different. So for me to talk about oranges & lemon in the same thread is strange, especially in this context.
The comparison to Yahoo was posted in reply to slotplayer, I was tired, must have got the nicks confused… 
99.9% of all Webmasters define Search Engine Spam as any site that ranks above their site…
Don’t wish to sound rude, but that was a bit of a sarcastic comment and something I don’t think was warranted lots0.
Maybe I’m gauging my opinions from the wrong webmaster boards of our industry, but, I don’t see too many people fitting the model of your statement.
If anything the google issues are a BIG thing. Especially as 99.9% of complaints are from webmasters in our industry about 888, scrapers, redirects and other dubious practices. If in your book this is bitchin, I’d suggest that your check which boards your deriving your opinions from cause they certainly don’t sound like the reputable ones like CAP for instance.