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  • #835038
    FussballGott
    Member

    “if you don’t send new ND for 3 months, you will not get paid old months commissions” – What a load of bull craphola. It’s time affiliates get protected against this type of behavior.

    My advise? Dump ’em. And, let your visitors know not to visit their casinos. For all I care: Let the world know, just as that you did here.

    Personally, I am fed up with these aff programs. Without affiliates, there would be no them.

    Ladies and gents aff programs people: Please, when do you start realizing this??

    #835039
    kslap
    Member

    @whs-web 254160 wrote:

    “if you don’t send new ND for 3 months, you will not get paid old months commissions” – What a load of bull craphola. It’s time affiliates get protected against this type of behavior.

    My advise? Dump ’em. And, let your visitors know not to visit their casinos. For all I care: Let the world know, just as that you did here.

    Personally, I am fed up with these aff programs. Without affiliates, there would be no them.

    Ladies and gents aff programs people: Please, when do you start realizing this??

    they don’t care about affiliate spending money for their promotions, once they accquire players they just get rude. I started working with them since wayne human (one of my friends) was there, and since he shifted to redreturns, things have been shady.

    they have their own defination of rev share, which sucks

    first they dropped rev share from 40% to 20% due to less deposits, and now they stopped payments with this reason, NO ND in last 3 months.

    #835040
    misswigg
    Member

    I didn’t know this and I am very surprised! Thanks for sharing

    #835041
    FussballGott
    Member

    This is why we don’t do any bizniz with referback. Give ’em the boot.

    Did they owe you much?

    Hold on a minute, based on those rules, if a new affiliate doesn’t make a ND in the first 3 months, they can refrain from ever paying him out. That is sick.

    Pretty girls as aff managers or not, their casinos are not on my sites.

    #835042
    kslap
    Member

    @whs-web 254163 wrote:

    This is why we don’t do any bizniz with referback. Give ’em the boot.

    Did they owe you much?

    Hold on a minute, based on those rules, if a new affiliate doesn’t make a ND in the first 3 months, they can refrain from ever paying him out. That is sick.

    Pretty girls as aff managers or not, their casinos are not on my sites.

    this is not for NEW Aff, because new aff do Biz, my account is 2010 old account, when i was new they use to pay me. Now i am old.

    i am makign 50-60 usd per month still @ 20% rev share deal, i think last payout which was declined was like 120 usd, but it’s not about money, its about cheating affiliates.

    #835044
    kslap
    Member

    @Caseym 254162 wrote:

    I didn’t know this and I am very surprised! Thanks for sharing

    and when you ask them about money on facebook group, they will block you :)

    #835046
    hassanmazhar
    Member

    Hi all,

    Clause 6.5. in our terms and conditions reads as follows:

    Referback will only make payments to active generating affiliates; an active affiliate account is defined as an account which has generated a minimum of 1 new depositing player within a period of three consecutive months. If an account does not meet these requirements, at the sole discretion of Referback management, future commission payments may be withheld.

    http://www.referback.com/legal/terms-and-conditions

    In reply to the statement: “if you don’t send new ND for 3 months, you will not get paid old months commissions” this is not the case. Any backdated commissions are paid upon the account going active again.

    In reply to the statement: “Hold on a minute, based on those rules, if a new affiliate doesn’t make a ND in the first 3 months, they can refrain from ever paying him out.” This is also not the case. The 3 months only applies to the last 3 months, it does not apply to any 3 month periods prior to this where no actives were generated. The moment an active is generated, the account is removed from the inactive status (should it have been inactive) and any backdated commission is paid with the next payment run.

    We will do everything possible to assist you as an affiliate to produce active players again. Your account manager can provide creative collateral, unique content, mailers, special offers & landing pages to best convert for the countries you are targeting. We can even arrange for a high level SEO analysis of your sites and provide a strategy for you to get started again should you have been out of the industry for a period of time.

    If you have any questions about your account, please contact your account manager who will be happy to assist you.

    Many thanks,

    Andrew

    #835047
    kslap
    Member

    @Andrew – Referback 254168 wrote:

    Hi all,

    Clause 6.5. in our terms and conditions reads as follows:

    Referback will only make payments to active generating affiliates; an active affiliate account is defined as an account which has generated a minimum of 1 new depositing player within a period of three consecutive months. If an account does not meet these requirements, at the sole discretion of Referback management, future commission payments may be withheld.

    http://www.referback.com/legal/terms-and-conditions

    In reply to the statement: “if you don’t send new ND for 3 months, you will not get paid old months commissions” this is not the case. Any backdated commissions are paid upon the account going active again.

    In reply to the statement: “Hold on a minute, based on those rules, if a new affiliate doesn’t make a ND in the first 3 months, they can refrain from ever paying him out.” This is also not the case. The 3 months only applies to the last 3 months, it does not apply to any 3 month periods prior to this where no actives were generated. The moment an active is generated, the account is removed from the inactive status (should it have been inactive) and any backdated commission is paid with the next payment run.

    We will do everything possible to assist you as an affiliate to produce active players again. Your account manager can provide creative collateral, unique content, mailers, special offers & landing pages to best convert for the countries you are targeting. We can even arrange for a high level SEO analysis of your sites and provide a strategy for you to get started again should you have been out of the industry for a period of time.

    If you have any questions about your account, please contact your account manager who will be happy to assist you.

    Many thanks,

    Andrew

    I am was not generating new players, but i have 3 Active Players depositing money.

    Now i spend money to get these players to you, and when they start wagring i got this **** back.

    Reason was posting to make people know you got this odd rule in your terms and condition, one of those small astrick which people notice when they get shocks. On my personal opinon i would say if i have 3 active depositors / wagring and making money for you, why are you so greedy not to pay affiilates, also this is an rev share deal and not a CPA deal where you can say you spend money towards player acqusition. i spent money, got the players in and then when they start wagring.. i get crap.

    i will rate referback at big zero.

    #835048
    kslap
    Member

    Andrew – i have already requested account closure and same was done earlier today. Reason, i don’t want to work with you anymore. I need a reliable network which pays you every penny you deserve.

    Here is the list we work with others and they have never been any issues
    1. Affactive
    2. Redreturns
    3. Wingate affiliates – now bought by fortune affiliates
    4. Gwages
    5. revenuejet
    and some others..

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    We will do everything possible to assist you as an affiliate to produce active players again. Your account manager can provide creative collateral, unique content, mailers, special offers & landing pages to best convert for the countries you are targeting. We can even arrange for a high level SEO analysis of your sites and provide a strategy for you to get started again should you have been out of the industry for a period of time.
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    you should know we were doing email promotions — so you should try and talk to affs and understand how the promotions are being done and help them, rather than making statements without knowing how things are being done.

    #835056
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    WOW!! so now even Referback has gone the predatory route me thinks I need to re-evaluate who I am working with!

    #835061
    kslap
    Member

    @bonustreak 254179 wrote:

    WOW!! so now even Referback has gone the predatory route me thinks I need to re-evaluate who I am working with!

    yups!! because the day you stopped promoting them and NDs stop, they will block your rev shared earned on old players.

    Like i promoted them in 2010, and even though players still depositing 200-300 usd per day to play, they are such a nut that they don”t want to pay me commissions. So they are not a long term player whom affiliates should promote.

    #835064
    FussballGott
    Member

    @Andrew – Referback 254168 wrote:

    Hi all,

    Clause 6.5. in our terms and conditions reads as follows:

    Referback will only make payments to active generating affiliates; an active affiliate account is defined as an account which has generated a minimum of 1 new depositing player within a period of three consecutive months. If an account does not meet these requirements, at the sole discretion of Referback management, future commission payments may be withheld.

    Andrew

    Don’t take this personal please as it is not intended to be so:

    Referback should be punished for behavior like this. HOW DARE you put this kind of clausules in? Look, without affiliates, there BE no referback. That is how it stands.

    I say, take that out of your TOS or, we should promote banning Referback. (And any other hideous other affiliate programs with TOS like this above.)

    You are going to lose over this. I bet.

    #835070
    FussballGott
    Member

    @jameskon 254166 wrote:

    and when you ask them about money on facebook group, they will block you :)

    a bit childish..

    #835080
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    As a new affiliate I would NOT use any aff program with such terms. Any time there is a quota of any type do not use them.

    #835082
    kslap
    Member

    @whs-web 254187 wrote:

    Don’t take this personal please as it is not intended to be so:

    Referback should be punished for behavior like this. HOW DARE you put this kind of clausules in? Look, without affiliates, there BE no referback. That is how it stands.

    I say, take that out of your TOS or, we should promote banning Referback. (And any other hideous other affiliate programs with TOS like this above.)

    You are going to lose over this. I bet.

    I never knew rev share deals were time based. Not that i have seen reputed networks / partners talking like that. They can change your rev share deal anytime so beware.

    This is not case with other small brands, for example.. i promote alwaysvegas back in 2010 for 6 months and generated 50 players, and after almost 4 yrs, they still pay me 50-60 usd which i make with them every month , on the other hand i never got any players in last 3 yrs for them…

    So, thing is.. these little TOS hit you in long run, because 10 different casinos i promote and 50 usd out of each makes it upto 500 per month. :)

    referback have closed the account and made good money, but i will make sure words are spread louder enough so they can’t trick others.

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