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I can’t add much more to what you’ve said arkyt.
However I want to say this.
If affiliates (that’s you and I) are to have any chance of survival then we all need to join forces.
In the past most affiliates wont do or say anything unless it was impacting on their income. However taking this type of stand, as we are seeing now, has empowered programs to steal from everyone.
I too used to think I could trust XYZ program and ABC affiliate manager but after being shafted more than once that illusion of this industry being all buddy buddy, vanished when I discovered someone I trusted has ripped me over $250K.
Knowing you’ve been scammed for that much cash ain’t a none too nice feeling!
@AussieDave 248331 wrote:
I can’t add much more to what you’ve said arkyt.
However I want to say this.
If affiliates (that’s you and I) are to have any chance of survival then we all need to join forces.
In the past most affiliates wont do or say anything unless it was impacting on their income. However taking this type of stand, as we are seeing now, has empowered programs to steal from everyone.
I too used to think I could trust XYZ program and ABC affiliate manager but after being shafted more than once that illusion of this industry being all buddy buddy, vanished when I discovered someone I trusted has ripped me over $250K.
Knowing you’ve been scammed for that much cash ain’t a none too nice feeling!
There should be zero tolerance for those programs who steal from affiliates.
I’ve asked this question numerous times before across various forums and no one has given me a definitive answer as yet. I’ll ask it again. How do we as affiliates prevent programs from stealing from us?
Affiliates refer the player, receive a commission and that’s that. I’ve seen this all before albeit in a different environment. Here’s to what I’m alluding to.
Friends of mine sub contracted to a large diamond mining company in South Africa. The contract stipulated that the company retained all diamond production and the sub contractor still had to give off 40% gross plus a 5% marketing fee of the diamonds to the company they sub contracted to.
To top it all the company sold the diamonds without the sub contractor being present. So you can only imagine what happened. At the end of the day the sub contractor only received a fraction of the original selling price of the diamonds.
The same principle applies to the online gambling industry. If we want to be successful in this industry we need to get a handle on our players.
@Cassaon888 248343 wrote:
If we want to be successful in this industry we need to get a handle on our players.
Great idea but we’re dealing with people who have morals and ethics in-line with that of sewer rats. Hence you’ll probably find buried somewhere in the T&C’s an ambiguous errr FU clause which could be used against direct association to players.
@Cassaon888 248343 wrote:
There should be zero tolerance for those programs who steal from affiliates.
I agree 100%
Problem is, the King Pins of the affiliate industry have their grubby little hands so far in cookie jar they wont blacklisting their buddies. The GPWA even went so far as to protect Rewards Affiliates and Casino Rewards. Corfman had a vote to breach them, the vote came back yes but he did nothing.
Instead claimed the vote was only to get a feel of how members felt about the issue.
When an affiliate association allows its own sponsors code of conduct to be breached and instead gives a program carte blanche to continue to steal from affiliates, what hope is there!
APCW claims, “Fighting for trust, honesty and integrity in the online gaming industry!”
Yet Rewards Affiliates remain as a silver sponsor and are promoted like their the best thing since sliced bread on Perspectives Weekly.
The entire industry is a SHAM!!!
@AussieDave 248344 wrote:
Great idea but we’re dealing with people who have morals and ethics in-line with that of sewer rats. Hence you’ll probably find buried somewhere in the T&C’s an ambiguous errr FU clause which could be used against direct association to players.
Lol, roger that Dave.
The only way we as affiliates will be successful if we start playing hard ball with affiliate programs.
Let me put it this way, how many programs became successful because of affiliates? Taking into account how competitive this industry has become very few programs won’t make it without the help of affiliates. It’s supposed to be a “Partnership” so give us the details of our players…period!
