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October 15, 2008 at 1:57 am #782541
casino.webmasterMemberLucky guys come and go…
Stick with the programs that have killer retention and that will help get those players back!! :wink-wink
October 15, 2008 at 2:22 am #782542
cicaighvameMemberGrrr
Tell you what, I had a guy losing over £60,000 in one day I was thinking CA CHING – wait til the end of the month and go on holiday.
The guy won it back.., then went on to win ANOTHER £120,000 and then never came back, the aff program had negative carry over but after 6 months agreed to delete that player from my account so if he does come back i get nothing.
The leason is – Well I don;t know what the leason is, it was a pretty crazy experience :roflmao: lol
here’s the screenshot should anyone wana see my best day so far
compilersystem.com/images/20000day.jpg
If every day was like that i wouldnt be posting here I tell you, I would be on a beach sipping cocktails :inlove:
Daniel
October 15, 2008 at 3:25 pm #782593
vladcizsolMemberIve told the story before, but about five years ago I was working with a program based in Israel and earning $25K – $40K per month average and had done so for almost two years. Well along came a killer whale, or so I was told, and this monster sent me $1.4M ngative in one month! Now for the really horrofying part, this program carried forward negative balances. My Affiliate Manager told me dont worry he is still playing in time he will give it all back. He never did. He pushed the negative balance up to $1.8M over the next six months, or so I was told, for that entire period I lost the income from all my base and finally I got fed up and quit working with them as I honestly felt I was being scammed.
Worst Winning player I ever had.
October 15, 2008 at 10:44 pm #782637Anonymous
Inactive@Professor 181033 wrote:
about five years ago I was working with a program … quit working with them as I honestly felt I was being scammed.
:Cry:
Did you ever name and shame this outfit prof?
October 15, 2008 at 10:54 pm #782638Anonymous
InactiveI bear with negative carryovers for exactly one month. If then it hasn’t corrected itself and the program insists on carrying the negative, I pull them.
October 16, 2008 at 12:15 am #782641Anonymous
InactiveI alway wondered if a program would plant a winner? What if you happened to know the winner? Would the program risk it?
October 18, 2008 at 3:21 pm #782964
ouromarketingMemberCould you please PM me the program you mentioned here?
Professor;181033 wrote:Ive told the story before, but about five years ago I was working with a program based in Israel and earning $25K – $40K per month average and had done so for almost two years. Well along came a killer whale, or so I was told, and this monster sent me $1.4M ngative in one month! Now for the really horrofying part, this program carried forward negative balances. My Affiliate Manager told me dont worry he is still playing in time he will give it all back. He never did. He pushed the negative balance up to $1.8M over the next six months, or so I was told, for that entire period I lost the income from all my base and finally I got fed up and quit working with them as I honestly felt I was being scammed.Worst Winning player I ever had.
October 18, 2008 at 4:52 pm #782968Anonymous
Inactivewell.. I understand everyone that feels bad about big winners but having suffered from this many times I think we need to accept this as part of the game. Personaly I just tend to avoid negative carryover programs all together.
October 19, 2008 at 2:57 pm #783020
ouromarketingMemberCould you please PM me the program you mentioned here,Professor?
Professor;181033 wrote:Ive told the story before, but about five years ago I was working with a program based in Israel and earning $25K – $40K per month average and had done so for almost two years. Well along came a killer whale, or so I was told, and this monster sent me $1.4M ngative in one month! Now for the really horrofying part, this program carried forward negative balances. My Affiliate Manager told me dont worry he is still playing in time he will give it all back. He never did. He pushed the negative balance up to $1.8M over the next six months, or so I was told, for that entire period I lost the income from all my base and finally I got fed up and quit working with them as I honestly felt I was being scammed.Worst Winning player I ever had.
October 19, 2008 at 6:17 pm #783033
Cialis OnlineMembercasino1784;180953 wrote:Hi!In August I saw something very strange. I did about 7000€ player losses from maybe 9 depositors from one of my sites. Then there was a strange guy from the UK who won about 500€ every day at Roulette. At the end he had won over 9000€. So my balance was at about -2000€. Ok, I have no negative Carry Over, but for the Casino it’s a desaster.
Additionally I “lose” my complete Affiliate Profit for one month, which was the month before over 3500€.
I thought the player would perhaps gamble again this month, but he seems to never play again. A clever guy indeed.
What are your oberservations? Have you seen such Lucky Guys? Do they come back and lose their money after a few weeks or month? This guy is inactive for about 4 weeks now :flush:
Cheers, Matt :hattip:
HI Matt,
We had a winner last month $350’000 on Slots. In the end he only took $6000 out of the casino and lost the rest back.
But I have a better scenario for you that works brilliantly for Affiliates:
An Affiliate brings a player who initially deposits $100. This player then wins $100’000
Lets just say this is on the 29th of the month. The affiliates earnings have all been wiped off. Do not dismay!!!!Come 1st of next month the neg earnings are wiped off( IF YOU ARE A C-PLANET AFFILIATE
. The Psyche of a player is to continue playing but only if they experienced the following:
Great games,
Great graphics
Great overall entertainment
Great customer support
Great retention and VIP relationsI have seen this a few times where the player then starts playing with the $100’000 before withdrawing his winnings. The affiliate suddenly has all this money in his net win.
Even though the casino never actually receives any of the money, the player is loosing money he didn’t actually deposit. Bar the initial $100 .
I paid an affiliate $40’000 in earnings from a $100 deposit two months ago. In the exact scenario.
A little unfair for us but good for affiliates, which is what we want in the long run:-)In regards to your scenario , it sounds a bit strange to me. Roulette is one of the game where the odds are better for the player that is why you don’t find many Roulette bonuses. If there is a pattern of a player winning 500 everyday on Roulette then it is up to the casino /affiliate program to check this out as it maybe fraudulent.
So in a nutshell “killer retention” is not the answer its the whole picture, a comprehensive package.
Regards
Ben Spiro
Marketing Director | Rushmore Gaming
Phone: +972-542-490-311
Email: [email protected]
MSN: [email protected]
ICQ:362008495
http://www.c-planet.comOctober 19, 2008 at 11:06 pm #783050Anonymous
InactiveJust happened to me.
$90k winner in aug. on a moderate deposit, has lost back 75k since the negative was wiped and a bunch of money in my pocket.
October 20, 2008 at 12:11 am #783057
ClubContMembera good retaining program is one thing but negative carryovers are something else.
October 20, 2008 at 12:32 pm #783113
vladcizsolMemberDOm that program is no longer in business. They were a master affiliate of a major group which bought them out.
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