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Hi . Im a newbie to this forum today, having come here from a google search i was doing. I have been avidly googleing and reasearching something specific during the past 3 weeks – brought about by something which happened in one of my forums.
I am looking to research and post about affiliates / webmasters who steal tournament passwords off others and then distribute them widely to there own members. I have already ( in just 3 short weeks ) amassed a great deal of evidence on 3 rings and one individual active in this behavoir.
Im sure that there must already be this topic dealt with in this forum. Can anyone help me find it.
Whilst looking through this Forum already I have found lots of useful affiliate stuff. Good stuff. I will get back to that stuff soon enough and contribute – but at the moment I am incensed and obsessed by this ” password theft” issue that i am investigating
Many thanks :hattip:
Welcome to the forum Capricorn:)
As far as i can remember we didnt yet discus this in a thread,
although we had our passwords distributed for our own poker tournament while ago lol….i think its best to email the password only 10 minutes b4 the tournaments starts,
and after the tournament at least check if the player was legitimite
Hi,Yes. I have soon realised the folly of releasing passwords too soon, but althou that is the reason for the start of my enquiries and investigations it is not the thrust of my thread.
Ok. We know that there are instances where some player release our passwords to their bubby. We can never stop that happening. In my last freeroll there where 9 renegade names registered.
I have found, in these renegade forums, hundreds of passwords – all belonging to many many forums – posted onto the internet. I have found posts and eMails containing passwords posted onto the internet. In a freeroll that i organised 2 weeks ago, there were over 300 renegade names registered for my tourney. I simply cancelled the event with moments to go. The renegade forums simply plant legitimate looking members into our forums who then simply sit and wait for a password to be released. Within 2 minutes that password is published to hoards of waiting password thieves
Despite spending 3 (THREE ) hours in live chat, on the poker site involved, setting out my utter disgust at what had transpired – nothing has happened. All they have done is paid lip service to my complaint. It appears therefore that they applaud such practises
I am interested to know
1. of any affiliates who have had/ are having similar experiences.
2. what the poker sites have done, if anything, to reprimand the offending renegades – who, I have found are webmasters for those poker cites – and openly allow the publication of stolen passwords alongside there own banners for the same poker sites
Yeah, I realy hate when that happend.
Once, we found the place that posted the password, sent an email to the affiliate manager with link to the site. I dont know if there is more we can do.
Then its upto the affiliate managers to take futher action.. they should banned their account.. stealing others work…First of all welcome to the forum. You’ve found the right place to discuss this. If as you say the distribution of the passwords is organized by a few people you are definately onto something. If you’ve done your research don’t hesitate to fingerpoint!
Hi and thanks for the welcome.
Sorry to hear that you had a similar experience liefen. Thats just the sort of stuff that i want to hear about – unfortunately. So you reported to the matter to the aff man. – Presumably you were NOT advised whether any action was taken against the renegades.
So please feel free to PM me with the appropriate info. I shall deal with any such info that I receive with the utmost secrecy whilst I collate this aspect of my investigation.
I have spent another 2 hours today gathering info, evidence etc. I am becoming more astounded by the minute with my findings. I have obviously been too busy building and running my own websites to see this despicable stuff that has been going on. I now realise, that i must build an iron clad dosier about this thieving before they ruin the business i have strived to very hard to achieve.
So any factual info, of
“I am interested to know
1. of any affiliates who have had/ are having similar experiences.
2. what the poker sites have done, if anything, to reprimand the offending renegades – who, I have found are webmasters for those poker sites – that openly allow the publication of stolen passwords alongside there own banners for the same poker sites”
is my primary goal from you guys.
I stopped promoting private tournaments awhile ago.. but when I was there was actually more than a bit of password passing that went on…
There were websites dedicated to sharing passwords, your tournament would be posted on the site, with the theifs banner, and your password. There was also a newsletter or two that went out with stolen passwords in it, I actually used to get it, I don’t still, so I likely blocked it eventually, I’m sure I just searched google to come up with them, maybe try private tournament or something like that and see wht you find.
I did at first report quite a few of the people, websites etc. to a few of the poker rooms, none seemed overly concerned.
I finally began requiring 4 posts on the forum during the month of the game, then PMed the password to only those forum members, we had a good tournout, but frankly, the tournaments mostly draw freeroll chasers, so I eventually stopped bothering much.
Good Luck
Thanks. Yes i have found the (some of them ) forums that steal and advertise passwords. I am really now interested to learn whether ANYONE is concerned about this and what if anything they attempted to do with the Poker sites to combat it.
I am disgusted by it. I am going to fight it. I have lots of evidence.
What i particularly need is sprecific personal information about certain individuals. I have some – I need more info about these individual. I want to see them banned from every forum and every poker site.
Additionally, and more importantly, I need to know what the poker sites have done, if anything, to reprimand the offending renegades – who, I have found are webmasters for those poker sites – that openly allow the publication of stolen passwords alongside there own banners for the same poker sites.
Is anyone bothered by this ? Is it just me ? If you wish – please PM me or eMail me to set up a confidential line of communication with specifics
many thanks
I think this issue deserves better exposure.
Why don’t you start a new thread in the “general discussion” area, with the subject describing the content properly, such as “poker tournie password theft” and state your case again. Also link to this thread.
You will get more response there.
I think I know what I’m going to do on this one…
I’m going to have our tech team develop the tournament password module so that it is paired up with the affiliate ID. This way any bozo’s trying to bomb in on a private tourney can scram…
Does anyone think that is unreasonable? It’s either that or I could have it so it reassigns the player to the affiliate hosting the tournament? This has negative implications for affiliates.
Any ideas on this would be useful but I like the first idea.
terrible. First idea is terrible .
P4e just implemented a scheme whereby only the downline can enter an affiliate’s tourney. Thats terrible news for all my other faithful forum members.Reasignment would be absolutely superb. That way the webmasters who steal my passwords would be ultimately assigning themselves to my downline – as would all the other password thieves . Absolutely brilliant :hattip:
@capricorn 128874 wrote:
terrible. First idea is terrible .
P4e just implemented a scheme whereby only the downline can enter an affiliate’s tourney. Thats terrible news for all my other faithful forum members.Reasignment would be absolutely superb. That way the webmasters who steal my passwords would be ultimately assigning themselves to my downline – as would all the other password thieves . Absolutely brilliant :hattip:
I respectfully disagree. The first idea to me sounds better, I’m already proposing it to several other poker rooms for open discussion. I would love it if people had ideas about how to deal with this issue….. Perhaps a complaint button or voting system to eject a player? The only thing with that is the abuse potential… Oh, the troubles… Why can’t everyone just be honest!
The only problem with the second idea is that it can openly attack other affiliate genuine revenue. Think about it, you can steal players from another affiliate. Nope, I would never let that happen.
Reasignment would be absolutely superb. That way the webmasters who steal my passwords would be ultimately assigning themselves to my downline – as would all the other password thieves
I have to agree with that.
It would reimburse the person stolen from and put a stop to the problem.
@Dominique 128884 wrote:
I have to agree with that.
It would reimburse the person stolen from and put a stop to the problem.
I would love to find a solution that would stop the money from leaking to players outside an affiliate’s network of referred players.
Saying this… I don’t want this system to be abused. It would be easy for 1 or more affiliates to target other forums and other player’s affiliates and send them to their own private tournament. It’s a messy system, how about my idea about “everyone being honest”!!!???
Thanks for the input, keep it coming, my only goal is to make money for affiliates and keep them happy. Happy affiliates = happy me :hattip:
