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Im with you,,
Its a discrace they have not put any effort into this legally.
Im with you,,
Its a discrace they have not put any effort into this legally.
Nobody is ditching anybody for crying in a bucket.
Do you think these guys WANT to stop taking US players? No.
They have no choice in the matter.
If Party and 888 see no way of fighting this thing, why would anyone else?
allfreechips wrote:Im with you,,Its a discrace they have not put any effort into this legally.Too busy waffling on about bonus abusers attracted by “free money”.
Too busy courting spammers. Too busy building networks of websites to challenge affs. Too busy doing deals with spyware marketers. Too busy interrupting the Olympics.
The crash bang wallop mentality employed by many online gaming firms, otherwise known as “aggressive marketing” has not helped “the industry”. There are a good few affs who happily joined in.
I don’t care for this industry much, because it Sucks frankly. I am not happy to see some good people here worrying about their jobs though.
justred wrote:Nobody is ditching anybody for crying in a bucket.Do you think these guys WANT to stop taking US players? No.
They have no choice in the matter.
If Party and 888 see no way of fighting this thing, why would anyone else?
What? They have no choice? Last time I checked the WTO ruled against the states. They had a choice fight it or lay down and die, they chose the later. Considering the amount of money they so willingly laid down and died for makes me think something else is going on here. :shots:
Besides the fact, as Holis has explained, it is not even a law… GW hasn’t signed a thing.
Right on there is something else going on here since this is not even a law yet!
It’s called clean house and save bucks! Imagine all the money they are going to save by dumping all of the long established affiliates, then say in a month or so open the doors again for affiliates and make them start all over building a player database, or dump all the affiliates and still take deposits from the us. The programs that are closing doors are not the most trustworthy programs to begin with so screw them I say!:madat:888 and Party are publicly traded companies. They have shareholders to appease, and operating illegally is not the way to instill trust with your shareholders. There is no ulterior motive here, they are doing what they have to do to survive. They both are very large and have significant revenue coming from non-US gamblers. Why loose everything when you can maintain something that is still very lucrative.
What will be telling is if the privately held sites do the same.
The point about GW not signing this is just silly. I wish it would happen as much as anyone else, but I don’t think he will shrug off port security just because he wants a vacation. He may be stupid, but he isn’t dumb.
webber286 wrote:888 and Party are publicly traded companies. They have shareholders to appease, and operating illegally is not the way to instill trust with your shareholders. There is no ulterior motive here, they are doing what they have to do to survive. They both are very large and have significant revenue coming from non-US gamblers. Why loose everything when you can maintain something that is still very lucrative.What will be telling is if the privately held sites do the same.
The point about GW not signing this is just silly. I wish it would happen as much as anyone else, but I don’t think he will shrug off port security just because he wants a vacation. He may be stupid, but he isn’t dumb.
yes, webber, I think we all know that he will sign it. The point is why did they do it now rather than wait to see? It is not realistic to assume that they are just law abiding people. Why do they still take bets from Australia? It is illegal there too. Where is the rationale?
And to think that everything is on the up and up is probably a little naive.
If it takes months to implement then logically, they would wait and get as much profit out of the market as possible.
FURTHERMORE, they are not publicly traded in the U.S SE. They don’t operate in the U.S. They are not bound by U.S. Law.
To just accept their explanations is too easy and maybe even a smidge intellectually lazy. (I know you are not, I am generalizing).at best right now, the issue of legality when it comes to companies that are NOT bound by US law, is very hazy….. how is that different than the legality has been for the past several years?
Companies have to make decisions based on their legal advice, I understand that…..
I have to make decisions based on how companies treat me… and I have a long memory… when the dust clears, I will remember/reward those companies that treated me well throught thick and thin, and I will encourage my friends and clients to do the same!
Companies can roll over now, or they can help put up a fight! I encourage all affilates to reward those companies that decide to fight for us!
The rationale is simple, the US is prosecuting, Australia is not.
It doesn’t matter where the stock is listed, the shareholders aren’t going to be too happy knowing that you are risking the entire company by going against US law. Better to have 50% of something rather than 100% of nothing. I’m not saying I agree with their stance, but I understand it. It sure would make more sense for them to operate as is and take the money earned from US players to fight this absurd new law.
