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May 5, 2006 at 12:26 am #691179
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InactiveI will wait for Michael’s decision.
I trust him to get this right.
May 5, 2006 at 12:34 am #691180Anonymous
InactiveHoly Crap! This is the last thing this industry needs right now.
Yes, I’ll wait to hear what Wiz says, but man, I just can’t see any way that this isn’t the worst possible situation. I’m not waiting to pull the few links I still have for these guys. If they pull a miracle out of a hat and can satisfactorily explain this, I’ll consider putting them back up.
May 5, 2006 at 12:43 am #691181Anonymous
InactiveI haven’t had them up but was considering it.
On hold now, I will wait for Michael.
May 5, 2006 at 2:07 am #691186Anonymous
InactiveUmmm … I agree and I disagree …
I’ve read the thread as posted – and yes it is very unlikely that the doubling option algorythm is based on a 50-50 fair share. In fact it’s quite easy to show how unlikely that is.
Probably much more likely to be set at about 60-40 in the houses favour …
But I agree with the sentiment in the last post on that thread by Zoozie – why do people think that it has to be a 50-50 spilt? All “games of chance” are stacked in the houses favour.
Are people now going to be posting claiming that roulette is fixed and casinos are “cheating” too ?
Non-issue for me.
:popcorn:May 5, 2006 at 2:21 am #691188Anonymous
Inactivewow long thread, just finished all of it
i see your point gooner too but,
roulette is a clear game of chance where video poker has some interaction over the out come.
all the card games are meant to be odds based on the house edge – so the odds should be as real as real life playing if you understand what i meanlol im so bad at explaining/expression
they should have a warning like all fruit machines do in the uk, it says somthing like “the odds show are not nessaceraly the odds given”
you say “Are people now going to be posting claiming that roulette is fixed and casinos are “cheating” too ?”
no people wont say that if they are given the odds shown 36/37 but then if they rig it like the vid poker to 60/40 which u say is acceptable, would you find that ok too ? . . . so the odds of roulette would be somthing like 30/37
ps. im a gooner too :clapper: . . was a tough game to watch ealier for 78mins. . . poor old van persi – kept getting told off by henry
was pleased with A Coles game as it will be great for him to be 100% back for the champ final :popcorn:May 5, 2006 at 2:29 am #691189Anonymous
Inactivemmm …
I see your point.
Because the medium being used to determine the double or quits “appears” on the screen to be a simple drawing of cards – then it may be that people assume that the method for determining those cards is random … and therefore a potential 50%/50% split.
However … when you ASSUME …
You make an ASS out of U and ME(groan – old joke)
:tongue:So the question is :
Do all video poker machines have to be truely random whenever they display a gambling element involving cards?(and I have no idea where to look for that answer …)
:eh:May 5, 2006 at 2:32 am #691190Anonymous
Inactiveof course to “Assume” can be pretty bad a sometimes…. but i DO assume to get odds of 36/37 when playing online roulette and i if i dont – then ive been stiffed.
anyhow – the wiz should bring them to justice if needed
May 5, 2006 at 7:36 am #691214Anonymous
InactiveIn Las Vegas video poker machines must be deal from a 52 card deck by law. Would it be ok for them to take some aces from the deck to make it less likely you hit a royal flush?
May 5, 2006 at 11:54 am #691232
vladcizsolMemberQuote:In Las Vegas video poker machines must be deal from a 52 card deck by law.If online gambling was legal and regulated in the US then we would have these checks and balances in place. Since the government refuses to do this there will always be an open question about the honesty of the games.
Perhaps Gibralter could cement their position as world leaders in gaming commerce if they would set minimum legal standards such as this.
May 5, 2006 at 12:39 pm #691243Anonymous
InactiveTheGooner wrote:Non-issue for me.I have to take issue with you there mate. This has the potential to be a major issue IMO. If the Wizard concludes the odds were fixed, it means that OddsOn software allows their casinos to individually affect the outcome of games and payouts.
That is far from a non-issue in my eyes.
May 5, 2006 at 12:44 pm #691245Anonymous
InactiveI agree with Simmo. This is not good at all. Looking forward to the Wizard’s findings.
May 5, 2006 at 4:22 pm #691273Anonymous
InactiveWholeheartedly agree wih Simmo. This is the worst thing that can happen in this industry. And it isn’t just OddsON. What does this say about VIP and Acropolis?
May 5, 2006 at 4:53 pm #691279Anonymous
InactiveVIP just bought the stuff. None of their other properties use this software. Hotpepper and it’s sister casino do use it.
I hate to sit judgement without solid proof and will wait for the Wiz’ opinion before allowing this to influence my thinking.
May 5, 2006 at 7:48 pm #691299Anonymous
InactiveI regret that there was an issue with video poker when we were updating our software that has been resolved. As stated players will be getting their funds back +20%. This in no way will effect webmasters payouts for April.
We appologise for the concern and steps have been taken to ensure this doesn’t happen again.
Contact me if you have any questions:
Thanks
May 5, 2006 at 8:58 pm #691301Anonymous
Inactive“I regret that there was an issue with video poker when we were updating our software that has been resolved. As stated players will be getting their funds back +20%. This in no way will effect webmasters payouts for April.”
“We appologise for the concern and steps have been taken to ensure this doesn’t happen again.”
That my friend is an admission of guilt…and there you have it.
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