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February 16, 2005 at 12:49 am #661657
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InactiveWell, with the new servicepack the window does NOT open. A warning pops up that says that something has tried to download and has been stopped. Then you have to click up on top where there will be a space below the address bar to let it download, and that then opens a new window. But the original window apparently never opened, so your code is lost.
I hadn’t thought of that. I hate all these built in things anyway – I want to decide myself whether I have a popup blocker or a download blocker or whatever all they put in. Instead, they decide to use it and you can try to vote against it.
Novices and older people have a very hard time with this and get to do nothing anymore.
February 16, 2005 at 7:38 am #661664Anonymous
Guestwell I guarantee this is costing us.
I’m sure I’m not the only person that has success pushing the flash casinos.
I guess I’ve no choice but to stop because even one big player lost is perhaps what makes all the difference between a bad month or a good month.
So I’m sure not going to work against myself.
This is most discouraging news.
Does anybody know if there is a Microgaming casino group that has implemented something to put it ahead of the pack in terms of tracking flash players?
February 16, 2005 at 2:27 pm #661671Anonymous
InactiveI was just trying to open casino flash versions following links from your websites on your signature and I did not noticed any problems in IE running SP2. I tried a few casinos, and the windows opened well and with the affiliate code in it. I did not try all, but since what I tried, opened well, the others you’re speaking about must also open well. They must see what the problem is. (I tried most on Vegas Affiliate network)
I did notice problems with Firefox. Most of the flash versions did not open, reporting unsupported browser. I don’t know why is this error reported since flash is supported in Mozilla in general. This is a concern since Firefox is growing in use, and you may lose a lot of players, because after seeing the error in Firefox, they may open directly a IE window and go directly to the casino website without your affiliate tag.
February 16, 2005 at 5:41 pm #661679Anonymous
InactiveAnd I see Firefox is growing steadily in usage…
I did notice problems with Firefox.
I’m working on issues with this same thing… I don’t know if it’s my flash header or what, but on my home page of my main site I keep getting a jscript window that says “Page contains no data” or “document empty” or something like this…
February 16, 2005 at 10:24 pm #661696Anonymous
Guestthanks Sharp.
I’m really surprised more people haven’t chimed in on this because I am certain it effects every one of us.
I never targeted flash players to any extreme extent; yet I have been made aware that many of my (better) players have been those using the flash casinos.
so if you’re thinking you’re not effected by this; I got news for you.
its just a matter to what extent; and I’m pretty sure its more than most people think.
February 16, 2005 at 10:53 pm #661701Anonymous
InactiveI am concerned. I’m currently #1 for flash casinos on msn, and a top 10 on yahoo.
I was waiting for someone more technically savvy than me to come in and give us some information on what could be causing this problem and how widespread it is.
February 16, 2005 at 11:26 pm #661705Anonymous
InactiveI agree with you, Steve, this is a very serious issue. Something needs to be done about this for sure.
What it boils down to, really, is that the online casinos need to do more testing. For instance, they should test their systems on different operating systems (e.g. Windows 98, 2000, XP), different internet browsers (Internet Explorer, Firefox, Opera), and also they should test with different antispyware/antivirus programs installed. You can’t just assume everyone has XP SP1, uses Internet Explorer, and is dumb enough not to have an antivirus program on their computer.
Over 20% of people now use Firefox. My sites are designed with this in mind, and if I’m promoting such-and-such casino, the links I’m directing people to better damn well work with Firefox. Otherwise, the links will come down until the issue is resolved.
How about this: Is it possible to create a link that, when clicked, will open a new window in a different browser? Say you’re viewing a site in Firefox. Can you create a link that would open the new window in Internet Explorer instead of Firefox? Perhaps there is a script that will do this? If so, this could be a temporary solution until the casino can make their site compatible with Firefox.
February 17, 2005 at 12:28 am #661710Anonymous
InactiveThis is really a concern to me because I am building a new site only for “no download” and “flash” casinos. I don’t want 1/2 my $$ to be gone!!! It’s a frustrating feeling to be helpless in the situation… it sounds like there’s not much you can do on your part to make sure the player gets tagged with your affiliate code.
February 17, 2005 at 1:18 am #661713Anonymous
InactiveEngineer wrote:How about this: Is it possible to create a link that, when clicked, will open a new window in a different browser? Say you’re viewing a site in Firefox. Can you create a link that would open the new window in Internet Explorer instead of Firefox? Perhaps there is a script that will do this? If so, this could be a temporary solution until the casino can make their site compatible with Firefox.
That would be a security concern for Firefox developers. At the time I’m using firefox and a link opens in IE, I would trash Firefox
:whoa:A script like you’re talking about would be considered as malware.
I think we all must do some more tests using IE and Mozilla-like browsers and report what we find to better understand the issue.
February 17, 2005 at 4:26 am #661718Anonymous
Inactivesharpgambler wrote:That would be a security concern for Firefox developers. At the time I’m using firefox and a link opens in IE, I would trash Firefox ….. A script like you’re talking about would be considered as malware.
Hmm, good point. I didn’t think of that.sharpgambler wrote:I think we all must do some more tests using IE and Mozilla-like browsers and report what we find to better understand the issue.I think that’s a good idea. We should make a list of what works and what doesn’t. I’m sure there are enough people on this board to cover the major combinations of operating systems, browsers, antivirus programs, etc. When we come across something that doesn’t work, we can bring it to the affiliate manager’s attention. And if they can’t (or won’t) fix the problem, at least the list will be here for everyone to see, so people will know what they’re getting into.Most people probably won’t care if a program doesn’t work on something that only 0.5% of the population uses — for example, Netscape browser combined with Windows 2000 (I’m just making this scenario up). But if something is used by 20% of the population (say it’s Windows XP operating system combined with the Mozilla browser), then I think the tracking software should work with that combination of programs. 20% is significant, and I don’t think I would promote a casino if I knew 20% of my referrals would be lost.
What do you guys think about creating a list?
February 17, 2005 at 3:33 pm #661738Anonymous
InactiveI have been advised that redownloading the flash program should solve the problems as the new download will recognize the new browser.
I don’t know this from experience, I have just been told that.
February 17, 2005 at 5:07 pm #661747Anonymous
GuestI have been advised that redownloading the flash program should solve the problems as the new download will recognize the new browser.
what does that mean Dom?
I don’t get it. redownloading?
anytime I hear “re” anything, it makes me think that the surfer must click it twice. That’s unlikely to happen if it works the first time. They don’t care whether our link code makes the jump or not; if it works for them they’re going to proceeed from that point.
but maybe I misunderstood.
February 17, 2005 at 5:17 pm #661749Anonymous
InactiveIt would be great if we could hear some affiliate programs’ opinions and suggestions on this issue also.
February 17, 2005 at 5:30 pm #661753Anonymous
Inactivebb1webs wrote:what does that mean Dom?I don’t get it. redownloading?
anytime I hear “re” anything, it makes me think that the surfer must click it twice. That’s unlikely to happen if it works the first time. They don’t care whether our link code makes the jump or not; if it works for them they’re going to proceeed from that point.
but maybe I misunderstood.
I understood it to mean that one needs to download the flash program again – not the casino. The program that allows you to see flash with your browser. Apparently it is browser specific. I don’t know this for myself though – it is just what someone told me.
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