Shaving in Gambling vs. Porn

Hello,

Please excuse my ignorance, but what exactly is ‘shaving’?

I’ve never heard the term before but it doesn’t sound nice.

Thanks,

Wayne

I don’t know about the extent of shaving in porn, but in casinos it is quite bad

2 questions:

Is there a list of casinos who are known to participate in this type of activity?

Can one assume that the certified programs at CAP are not involved in ‘shaving’?

Thanks,

Wayne

From my extensive experience with casinos, and my more limited experience with rx…

Casinos are far more honest, communicative, and there’s much less to worry about. I still cannot believe how dishonest the rx industry is, it’s full of crooks. Every week a new pharmacy dissapears stealing that months earnings.

There are some crooked casinos, but if you stay with the proven and well known casinos using established software providers (microgaming, boss media, & cryptologic) you should be fine.

Antoine

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They’re not dishonest compared to porn.

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fuze you’ve been in porn for a long time ?

:rolleyes:

I’ve had good luck with the following programs:

score-cash.com
nastydollars.com
dannicash.com
flyntdigital.com

Although Score has far and away been the best of the bunch for me.

Just my 2 cents–those are in order of my confidence level in them, BTW.

Originally posted by fuze
Porn- on and off for 2-3 years, it was my first affiliate biz. Mainly AVS sites and free sites. I didn’t give them nearly as much attention as I did Rx more recently because I found it to be a lot more lucrative and you dealt with higher quality people. With the huge signup and revshare bonuses to attract affiliates, they don’t nearly give you credit for as much as you should have- and it’s off by a lot. The worst experience I had was with a company Mallcom, who ran an adult DVD store- I and a few friends placed orders and did not get credit for any of them. Going back and forth with Jerry the affiliate manager was like talking to a brick wall.

If you know of any that don’t shave (yeah right) or shave just a little, I’d be interested. I’ve found porn to be incredibly dishonest with extreme shaving.

fuze

fuze … a local guy I know is making between $50 000 and $100 000 a month on porn … sending a pm.

:rolleyes:

Hi,
for what its worth, I’ve found Antoine to be very competent
That’s not taking away from anybody else that posted; I don’t mean it like that at all. – just that our experiences are often the same so I’ve come to place a great deal of confidence in his words.

I’ve been out of porn (free sites) for a long time. But have I got some stories… anyway, I always did well with AdultRevenueService .. or share, something like that, I just remember them as ARS, but things change quickly on the net and you’d not surprise me to say they were a bad choice nowdays.

I’d say that there are more cheats than honest in all aspects of when it comes to dealing with online businesses, and that its all-important to do your homework, such as you are doing now; before you make that first turn on the monopoly board.

Personally I like working with the casinos much more than with the majority of porn aff programs because I’ve always tried to concentrate on quality of traffic rather than quantity and I think the casinos appreciate/respect that more than do the porn who think almost totally in terms of amount of traffic sent; rather than the quality of it. *this line of thinking may have changed since back in my days. However, that said; it takes time to earn the respect for the quality of your traffic where as if you went into things sending large numbers, you’ll start out with respect and then only stand to lose it if your traffic proves to not produce players.

I think that casinos demand more time spent between an aff manager and aff; than does porn. This because of the high stakes involved in terms of advertising etc.

As to Cap certified programs; you must take into consideration as Dom said; there is no way of proving 100% that a program is cheating. or isn’t. I beleive what the Prof has tried to do; is to weed out those places that are known for not treating players right; which should be everyone’s main concern, because we start out under the gun, so any adverse publicity hurts all of us.

The closest you’ll come to positive proof a place is cheating; is by sending testers to signup and play. What works much better is to get a few big players to keep you informed of where they’re playing and a general idea of how much they’re playing.

it’s my experience that if you can get them to contact you once; that they will happily stay in touch after that because they know they’ll get top service if something ever goes wrong.