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    Default Aspire Affiliates - Manipulating statistics?

    I have some problems with Aspire Affiliates. I suspect them from manipulating the statistics. Who supports this story?

    In march 2012 when I started my first gambling affiliate website I also started promoting Grandgames, a website that has its affiliate program with Aspire Affiliates. I got a Revshare deal with them of 25%. In 2012 the website was new and I 15 effective depositing players with them and a total commission of $600. Till September everything was pretty normal and I was paid out like normal.
    The last 3 months of 2012 I only had a commission of $15 each month and a total of 5 new depositors. In December I asked my affiliate manager what was going on that the commission was so low those last months. Answer: "Bad luck but it will get better again. Lets make a new deal, you promote us more and you get a revshare or 50% for 3 months". So I started promoting them more and I got more registrations.
    January 2013, the month was going great, I had a total commission around 4000 EUR during the month. But almost at the end of the month on 28 January the commission went from +4000 to -6900! And guess what, they have a negative carry over. I didn't even know this, I never had a negative balance before. So February started with -6900 commission or a netgaming of -13800 EUR. I had already arranged a meeting with my affiliate manager on the LAC so I planned to discuss it there.

    At the LAC I had a meeting with my affiliate manager. I told her what happened and she said that she saw it. I had bad luck! I discussed with her that it was impossible. From +4000 to -6900 in commission so a player won 10900 x 2 (the 50%) = 21800 EUR. He must be a very lucky player.
    I asked her a few times to do something about it, even at one of the parties when I saw her. But she kept saying she couldn't change anything, I just had bad luck. But she would ask her manager when she got back to Israel.

    After the LAC we kept discussing. She couldn't put my balance back to 0. The only deal they could offer me was a additional €250 for every article I made for them on my website. So I had to make about 28 articles on my website, in other words: spam my website full of grandgames articles.
    I didn't accept this deal and said I wouldn't promote them anymore. So I removed all their banners from my website. Only inside the review for grandgames I kept my affiliate links to grandgames.

    From February till June I had 2 new depositors from the links inside the review. And the commission went from -6900 to -5000.
    My affiliate manager contacted me that they didn't like it that I didn't promote them anymore. Her manager would like to meet me at the AAC.
    In Amsterdam I met with Aspire Affiliates. We came to the agreement that they would set the balance to 0 and a higher commission structure. In return I put their banner back on my websites (Belgium and Denmark) and do 1 post a week for 3 months.

    This month I started with the fresh balance of 0. I placed the banner for Grandgames in Belgium and Dansk777 in Denmark and did some posts. Till now I have 1 effective depositing players in Belgium and none in Denmark. The netgaming started growing till 100EUR. But then it went to -500 EUR.
    Bad luck again?! But guess what, the negative netgaming of -1000 was on my Danish tracker. I NEVER had a effective depositor in Denmark. So I contacted my affiliate manager that it is not possible that I have a negative commission on the Danish tracker because I never had a depositing player in Denmark.
    She tells me that it is a player that was already registered on a other website in the neogames network, those games don't get counted in the effective depositors statistics. And she refers to their terms: "A “New Player” shall mean an Internet user without a prior account with any of the websites operated by NeoPoint".

    But this is not all. I was talking with one of my other affiliate mangers from a other website. I spoke with him about this matter and he told me that someone else told him the same kind of story but he wasn't sure. He would ask it again. Now he confirmed me, the other affiliate had the same problem with Aspire Affiliates. Suddenly he also had a huge negative balance.

    I don't believe Aspire Affiliates anymore. I think they are a fraud.

    What is your opinion about this story? Please help me.
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    I know they are one of the absolute worst converting programs for me
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    Have you considered negotiating a CPA arrangement with Aspire?
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    I was working with them since they were NeoGames affs or something. Dropped them from my sites months ago because i was getting odd minus players. I was on CPA.. Never going to promote them anymore..
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    interesting that u've mentioned that boljoro. over the last months, i was doing quite well with aspire. 2 months ago it started that we had negative commission what never happened before (when i talk about us, that includes 6 different affiliate accounts owned by 6 different individuals running different sites but working together). so far - ok. can be a bad month & bad luck. more interesting was the fact (and im just talking for the german and swedish speaking countries!) that a few affiliates promoting aa brands like karamba, hope, scratch2cash, ... mentioned similiar drops in their affiliate commission like uve mentioned.

    just give it a look for the next 1 or 2 months - there are plenty of other nice scratch card websites out there :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kononen View Post
    I was working with them since they were NeoGames affs or something. Dropped them from my sites months ago because i was getting odd minus players. I was on CPA.. Never going to promote them anymore..
    I'm not sure I understand you correctly. Did you get less players after you went to CPA with them?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FictionNet View Post
    Have you considered negotiating a CPA arrangement with Aspire?
    I've considered it, but I think I will just drop them. In the long term I earn more from revshare on a other program then CPA at Aspire.


    I mainly created this thread to see if other people also having strange statistics at Aspire. I think we should share our experience with this program and if I'm not the only one having this we should do something to prevent them from robbing other affiliates.

    I've send 256 players to Aspire so far, 24 of them did a deposit and I didn't get payed since september 2012... I don't know if the number of registrations and depositors is correct either. The only thing I know for sure is that they don't pay! They kept coming with excuses but now I'm done with them.
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    I had a meeting with the new manager. We had a misunderstanding but the problem is solved now. We are working together again.
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    Hello, Aspire Affiliates is a scam and rogue affiliate program. They didn't paid my commission since August 2013 and account manager is sending stupid answers and treat me like idiot.
    The last time, they paid me was August 2013 and then started manipulating data in the account, since that time.They owe me almost 300 Euro (up to August 2014) and do not want to pay.
    I will post the thread about it, next week or so.
    Stay away from this program if you do not want to waste your time and getting nervous like me.
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    Aspire is big NO, never converted for us. 100 odd signups in 2 months but not even a single ND. So we had to stop promotions.
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