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    Default Grand Prive - SOLVED?????

    Guys, I met with Grand Prive today.

    We had a long talk and several things came to light and I think we have solved the issue.

    I had long figured that the legacy players from referspot were missing in the ecogra audit. Everyone who complained that they were not compensated said that the monies owed were from legacy players.

    We narrowed it down to a difference in tags between the old and new systems, and that when ecogra was presented with the numbers, the old type tags had not been pulled by the program used. (the numbers came from microgaming, not Grand Prive itself).

    Grand Prive wants to reimburse the remaining unpaid affiliates.

    Since microgaming holds all the old stats (if they still have them) and Grand Prive has zero access since they moved software, these reimbursements will have to be figured on the basis of affiliate income.

    So Grand Prive will go back and examine the previous income of unpaid affiliates and reimburse on that basis, since the legacy player tags are not to be found. As one of the affected affs myself, I find this to be acceptable. One can assume that players who have players since the referspot days continued at the same rate

    They also said they will look at players in their new software and find the ones still playing there and retag them to the original affiliates and pay for them - retroactively to when they started playing on the new software.

    I doubt this will yield much, I know my players would have quit on the new software. Also, legacy tags will not be possible to match since they are gone. It is a good faith offer though and affiliates with Grand Prive tags, not Referspot ones, will benefit.

    Anyway, this is a huge thing, I feel quite good about it all.

    Hopefully guys like bwin won't take this long to come in from the cold. There is a lesson to be learned for affiliate programs.
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    I hope they don't expect us to jump back on their ship and start promoting again .We wrote off the money ,removed them from our sites and that is the way it will stay.
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    how are thay going to work it 1.5 or 2x of what you made with them in the last year with the program ? wont get my hopes up till the cash is in the bank. what kind of time frame are we looking at for them to do this ?
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    I think each case will be handled seperately and with personal contact.

    Now, if you did not file a claim when they asked people to file a claim back when ecogra did the audit, I suggest you leave a note here that you failed to claim.

    I am not sure what will happen with that, but I will do my best to get you in the mix after all this time.

    If you have filed a claim when asked, they will contact you personally to work things out.
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    yep filed a claim got $77 lol will keep an eye out for a email off them
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    No offense but to create a title for this thread called "Grand Prive - Solved" I feel is a bit premature don't you think? I am not sure why that term was used.

    It certainly is not solved for many affiliates. Only when everyone is satisfied should it considered solved or close to everyone. All we have now is speculation that they want to come clean.

    I do not see affiliates being paid up already and there is still them needing to publicly make a post at least to explain what mistakes they made and come clean with the industry.

    That is the least they can do to be honest since they screwed many affiliates all over.

    Really do you think this is solved?
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    Dom, I think it is great that you met with these guys to try and sort out the problems, but I must admit that I am not as optimistic as you. I met with them about a year or so ago and wasted 2 hours with them while they pretty much told me the same thing they have told you in your meeting...and what did they do.... Absolutely Nothing!
    I hope you have better joy than I had.....
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    Point taken and title changed.

    It's 4am and am leaving for airport.... so will reply in more detail later.
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    I was a little shocked to see this thread title!

    Anyway, I'd have to say:

    1. No one really promoted Grand Prive, we all got screwed from when it stopped being called Referspot, so any failing to count Referspot earnings means this is insincere and not seriously worth any time discussing.

    2. Its been so long, any attempt to right this _must_ see interest paid.

    3. If ReferSpot numbers are gone, I'm happy to dig up my last month's earnings on ReferSpot and use these as the basis for figuring out what I'm owed. If they don't have the data, any errors this creates aren't our fault. At this point I'm far past worrying about exact dollars and cents to be frank.

    4. Grand Prive's attempts to solve all this have been so insincere that along with their bad faith in doing this in the first place, there should prior to anyone getting too excited about anything or discussing with them much further be an amount of money put into escrow to show good faith on their part.
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    First, Thank you Dom for putting the time and effort into this. Above all you deserve thanks even if we dont get anywhere with them.

    Second, Ill be interested in seeing what if anything they come up with as its always good to have a Christmas bonus.
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