Thread: CWC Going The Way of Gambling Wages?

Well, its hardly going to be a 'summer of love' for me as it seems that ClubWorld has started doing what Gambling Wages are infamous for and throwing out huge numbers of credits to players, thereby resulting in, well, no commission.

Here's my numbers for the month :

Downloads :246
Registrations : 81
Unique Sessions :124
Initial Deposits : $1,520.00
Depositors: 20
Deposits :$16,408.34
Withdrawals: ($7,290.00)
Gross Win: $11,918.01
Credits : $11,219.83
Chargebacks :$0.00
Net Win: $698.18

And before you say that old line about 'well, when the bonuses get played back, it all evens out', what happens when they don't get played back. I've been sending you 20 new depositing players each month for well over and year and yet my commissions never seem to increase incrementally.

Oh, and my commission is showing as a negative for the month, despite a positive net win.

Apart from that, everything is just hunky dory.

Holy ****...

Wow. Just looked and mine looks normal...

Well, if you break it down even further, I've noticed that my LuckyRed players have deposited a total of $462.00 and have been given over $1500 in credits. I'm getting well and truly shafted. Thanks ClubWorld - much appreciated.

Clicks	Downloads	Signups	Unique Sessions	Initial Deposits	Depositors	Deposits	Withdrawals	Gross Win	Credits	Chargebacks	Net Win
298	87	37	70	$354.00	4	$1,063.00	$0.00	$2,120.66	$1,187.29	$0.00	$933.37

They offer a high % bonus for luckyred so players get a lot of bonus money to play with after a deposit. Looks like my players take the bonus, if this is the column credits.

I just added lucky red and my first player deposited $150 and got 59 cents in credits.

Originally Posted by tryme1

Well, if you break it down even further, I've noticed that my LuckyRed players have deposited a total of $462.00 and have been given over $1500 in credits. I'm getting well and truly shafted. Thanks ClubWorld - much appreciated.

Honestly? ...

If you promote a casino that has a 400% welcome bonus (as Lucky Red Casino does) then I reckon it's a bit much to be complaining that the casino actually delivers on that promise by giving a 400% bonus ???!!!!


I'll agree that you are not making profits - but as to getting "shafted" ....

OK, Gooner - thanks for your input. Feel free to patronise someone else, however.

Firstly, I don't actually promote LuckyRed. The players I have acquired for LuckyRedCasino have come via internal CWC promotions to players within their database. Because I originally brought these players to the ClubWorld Group, now that they are playing at LuckyRed, they have been assigned to my affiliate account.

The LuckyRed thing is merely a side issue.

The main issue is what I wrote in my original post.

I know you think you are terribly smart and very important in the gambling industry, but really, your willingness to jump on your peers is a little tiresome. There's a legitimate issue here.

Patronising? If having the correct analysis of numbers being pointed out to you feels that way then so be it. I'll live with it.

You have a 400% bonus casino (LuckyRed) that pays 400% credits.
That's NOT being shafted (despite your assertion in the LuckyRed numbers post that it was).
As YOU hadn't made the connection I mentioned it.

Regarding the other numbers it seems that credits are around 60-80% of deposits - again it's in line with what the casino advertises on it's banners with a 100% bonus.

As I recall Gambling Wages used a category called "manager credits" to boost the credits way above the carded rate when compared to deposits.

With these numbers that you posted it seems that bonus credits are being paid in line with advertising - both at LuckyRed and a CWC Casinos as a whole ... so where is the shafting?

What is the ligitimate issue?

Firstly, I don't actually promote LuckyRed. The players I have acquired for LuckyRedCasino have come via internal CWC promotions to players within their database. Because I originally brought these players to the ClubWorld Group, now that they are playing at LuckyRed, they have been assigned to my affiliate account.

How does this "internal promotion" work, this is X promotion or not ?
How does this procedure work, I thought this was not possible ?

to Gooner : thanks for your contribution always appreciated !