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- 01-25-2009 10:33 PM #31Senior Member
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To me the whole point of building a business is so that down the road a person can minimize the amount of work they do. I hope that at least Louis has more time for himself and for his family. Maintaining this board would take up a lot of time.
Nonetheless I will miss his posts! If you ever decide to come back we will be happy to have you here.
Nonetheless come to the conventions even if just for the socializing parts. -
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I hope i speak for everyone when i say...nighty night Dom...get some derserved sleep and see ya in the am.
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Gamblingaffiliateplace.com - 01-25-2009 11:02 PM #33Senior Member
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Whatever mistakes and/or sins that Warren and Lou may have committed, i certainly don't think of either of them as bad people. The entire legal purpose of a corporation is to provide a separate legal entity from the investors, so the argument that they are separate businesses is legally correct. So, all these attacks on lou and warren are all about whether they have an obligation to be transparent about their businesses when their operations "intersect" and how he's dealt with these accusations.
I think you guys handled this "outing" poorly, but when people are publicly attacking you and your privacy concerns aren't just a bunch of hot air, i can see how you might make some bad decisions out anger/panic/stress.
i certainly don't hold feel hostility toward you guys and hope that i've handled myself in a way that didn't add to your pain.
I look forward to this painful period to end and remember when the GPWA fell apart between CAC2002 and GIGSE 2003, it was Lou that help bring those in the community who were tired of the fighting over to CAP. It was Lou who turned a fishing trip with a few friends, into some of the best events this industry has had. Thanks for all your hard work and i hope people stop throwing their anger toward you and warren.Last edited by AmCan; 01-25-2009 at 11:14 PM.
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- 01-26-2009 01:10 AM #34Senior Member and Moderator
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Gamtrak I am sure that Dom has a game plan in place about the banning as well, we will put our heads together and get things turned around and back on track in a positive way for all members of CAP after all it's not about 2 people but about the entire community.
I am off to bed as well cheers to all
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- 01-26-2009 01:21 AM #35Member
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I would never kick a guy when he is down. Not my style.
I didn't even know there was a health issue with Lou.
At the same time, business is business, and there are many unanswered questions that should be answered, and need to be answered.
All Affiliate Management relationships should be disclosed in the interest of honesty, Integrity, and transparency to your CAP Affiliate Members, and CAP Certified Advertising Sponsors.
This is not a health issue, it's an honesty issue that has brought all of this on.
The various Conflicts of Interest are not tough to see. They are clear as glass.
Nobody wants to to hurt CAP, Lou or Warren. That isn't the goal. Certainly not mine.
Running an Affiliate Board is brutal sometimes. Believe me, I know all about it. :-(
It SUCKS to go to bed late at night in the midst of a problem and then wake up in the morning to find you have been spit on and missed, but **** on and HIT! LOL
If you need a medical break, by ALL means LOU, take it!!!
My goodness. Nothing is more important than that!!!!!
As one of many, all I ask is that you disclose your Effective Media relationships to us.
I for one will probably promote most of them. Others may not because there are some hard feelings out there.
In either event, your CAP and PAP Affiliate Members have a right to know this basic information so they can make their own choices accordingly.
I couldn't care less about how you guys are set up on a Corporate level, ETC..
We do have a right to know if we are Partnering with you on any level.
Afterall, CAP, PAP, GPWA and GIA Members ARE all competitors, so we all need to be honest and up front with each other if we are going to CROSS over to become Partners, while being competitors at the same time. -
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- 01-26-2009 03:49 AM #36Moderator - Big Kahuna
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Well, I got another couple hours of sleep and am off to my appointment now.
Glad to see all hell hasn't broken lose while I closed my eyes.
I should tell you that there were two conditions under which I am stepping in, the reversal of recent bans at CAP, and the strict seperation of CAP and the business of the parent company. So likely Warren will not be posting again any time soon.
Communications will be a bit spotty now since I am travelling, and that in a different time zone. In London I will look for Cake and see what needs to be done in that respect.
Be well and have a productive monday!
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- 01-26-2009 06:11 AM #37Senior Member
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Not getting into the politics of the current situation but looking at my own history in this game... my "initiation by fire" was taking a 20 minutes tongue lashing from Lou at my first ever CAP Spring Break - it opened my eyes to the passion he and people like him have for this industry and went a long way to igniting my love for it.
It would be a shame not to allow other n00b account managers the same experience
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- 01-26-2009 07:26 AM #39bb1websGuest
Hi all,
This seems to have been a sudden decision which points heavily as a health issue and reason for allowing safe passage to mend.
Any transparancy issues Should be able to be addressed by the rest of company however that works but I think it needs emphasis to some that if say we were all in a brick and mortar situation and Lou was to have suddenly sat down and said I quit .,, my health can't take it any more ,.,,
I don't think so many would be encouraging him to get back up and fight. Nor bothering him about transparency.
All due respect to all parties ... please. Allow safe passage. - 01-26-2009 07:31 AM #40Guest Affiliate Manager
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I can only say I am shocked - I wish we all would all get along but where business (i.e. money) in involved, relationships can sour.
I personally believe we should all move on from the recent goings on and work towards a brighter future for operators, affiliates, players and service providers alike.
In my personal opinion, this whole situation could have been handled better by everyone so some degree but this is the nature of this industry. If there was no passion involved, no of this would of come about.
We all care about this industry we are in so we might channel our efforts into making it a better place for all involved. Lou and Steven have been pillars of the industry in their different ways, I just hope that they both can continue to do so in their respective areas.
Sorry if I have offended anyone, I just want everyone to get along
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