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- 01-22-2009 11:02 PM #1Senior Member
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Thanks Obama saves wolve from Bush
My opinion of Obama just increased exponentially:
Obama Stops Bush's Last-Minute Regulations
Rules must be reviewed by new agency heads
January 21, 2009
Seattle, WA -- White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel Tuesday sent a memo to the heads of all executive departments and agencies, ordering a stop to all pending regulations until a legal and policy review can be conducted by the Obama administration.
A rule that would eliminate Endangered Species Act protections for wolves in the northern Rocky Mountains except for those in Wyoming was scheduled to be published on January 27. Now it will fall under review with the new administration.
Among others, the Bush administration recently finalized rules that significantly weaken the Endangered Species Act, allow for mining deposits to be dumped within 100 feet of flowing streams and exempts large-scale factory farms from notifying government officials when they release unsafe levels of toxic emissions into the community. Earthjustice, a public interest law firm, filed suit against all of these rules.
The following statement is from Patti Goldman, Vice President of Program for Earthjustice:
"While we are pleased that the new administration has put a stop to these hasty actions, there are some rules we continue to monitor.
"Under the Emanuel memo, the wolf delisting rule will be withdrawn. This rule was extremely controversial and was rushed through even though a federal district court had declared the wolf delisting illegal in July. It defied the law which prohibits a state by state listing when the wolves do not respect state boundaries.
"For the vast majority of the midnight regulations, the Bush administration got them published in time to evade the Emanuel memo's freeze. Earthjustice has brought dozens of legal challenges to Bush rollbacks, which provides the ultimate pathway to reining in the excesses of the Bush administration." -
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- 01-23-2009 07:06 AM #2Senior Member
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If I recall correctly they also wanted to kill wild horses as it was becoming too costly to feed them. Not sure what became of it though.
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• Prepaid Cards • Giftcards - 01-23-2009 08:37 AM #3Senior Member
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Actually i think it was the Widows and Orphans they wanted to kill, because they cost too much to feed.If I recall correctly they also wanted to kill wild horses as it was becoming too costly to feed them. Not sure what became of it though.
Well, maybe i'm just making that up, but unfortunately with Bush admin, you never know.
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President Obama is going to save this nation and make us a world leader once again. Thank God we have him. Watch and see the explosion of new business for all of us in late 2009 early 2010 and watch for real freedom to be restored in the USA. We will also be good world citizens instead of the evil empire that replaced the former Soviet Union in that role for eight years.
These are amazing and wonderul times we live in. I am proud to be American again and in time everyone will be even the Republicans who fought so hard to drive us into disaster. I also believe President Obama will bring us all back together. We share a common heritage and past. There wont be Red and Blue seperation. There will be instead what so many Americans gave their lives for during our long history and thats Red, White and Blue and one nation. -
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- 01-23-2009 02:13 PM #6bb1websGuest
The wolves situation is something I understand very much both ways but in the end I believe the people that have to live and work around the wolves are the ones who should be deciding their fate and not people in NY or some other place that never sees them, doesn't have their livelyhood effected and do not have their children playing in backyards that are within reach of the wolves.
the simple truth is that ranchers and wolves will never be able to live side by side. It is the wolves' nature to kill the easiest prey and that will always be cattle or sheep.
short of hugely expensive fencing whether on the side of the ranchers or the wildlife side ... is the only way they can exist in the same areas, or put up some sort of barrier any of which cost money.
Ranchers barely make it as it is. These are the same people who put that meat on your plate everyday.
I would perhaps feel differently if the wolves were down to numbers that were a threat to the species but the fact is that they are not endangered in other parts of the world. And probably never will be. Why they have to be found in areas where there are already ranchers established ... I don't understand.
to the rancher bringing in wolves is no different than if a bunch of ... what we thought were extinct hackers and scrapers ... were dumped into our environment because people who never get on line ... thought it was needed because their numbers were depleting.
How many of you want one more scraper or hacker on the net?
that's how the ranchers feel about the wolves and for the same reason. They seriously hurt business. - 01-26-2009 09:16 PM #7Senior Member
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Mine just went down, actually was was starting to like the guy, but that bill he signed Friday giving 460 million dollars away to foriegn country's to use for abortions.
Kindda wierd feeling that you want wolves Endangered Species and I think babies in womans tummys as Endangered Species.
Either way, at this point in time do our tax dollars have to go over seas to pay for peoples abortions. More important, does our tax money have to go anywhere but to Americans now?

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