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Professor · #1 (**permalink**) 12-02-2008, 10:08 AM

For anyone unfamiliar with the background of the current situation here is a quick summary.

1. Grand Prive Affiliates announce that they were ceasing operations effective December 1
2. It's come to light that the casinos represented by Grand Prive Affiliates continue to operate and are accepting deposits as usual from the exisiting player database.
3. Previously Grand Prive had entered into an agreement with their affiliate partners to pay commissions on all referred players for the life of the player account.
4. Grand Prive is knowingly in breach of that agreement and are attempting to defraud affiliates by stating that AFFILIATE PROGRAM has been closed, but not the casinos.

What is so odd about all this is we have NEVER seen a Microgaming Operator behave like this. Couple that with the fact that for years Grand Prive has been a great program to work with and they have been great supporters of the community and you can understand why we are slightly shell shocked by all this. Had this not been the case we would have acted sooner as we were giving them the full benefit of the doubt and I was fairly confident this was just a case of poor communication.

Based on many of the private communications I have received over the last few days this does not appear to be the case and it appears we are looking at a very serious scandal that WILL destroy the reputation of a formerly good company if left uncorrected. Unfortunately it COULD also shake affiliate and player faith in the Microgaming Platform.

Obviously that's something we all would like to avoid at all costs.

CAP will take an active role from here on out and get things sorted as best we can. That's what we have always done together as a community and nothing has changed that core value.

Here's the game plan

Our official requests are straight forward

1. Affiliates MUST be paid for the life of ALL their existing players (US and World) at all casino brands. We STRONGLY urge that affiliates continue to receive the commissions due them from the Grand Prive casinos via the "new" Villa Fortuna program to make this an easy process. If an alternate process can be implemented faster that is fine also.

2. Player tracking and reporting for all existing players be accessible in real time to all affiliates.

3. Grand Prive/Villa Fortuna shall maintain a prompt payment schedule for affiliates and players as they have done in the past.

4. It is our suggestion/request that Irwin be retained as the primary affiliate program manager. We feel he knows our accounts and needs better than any potential replacement. Our community members are all comfortable working with him. While we cant presume to dictate staffing at Villa Fortuna we would ask that this request be honored.

5. We require a written and public response to these requests within 3 business days, if we don't recieve an official response during that period we will move forward with severe punitive actions which may include the following:

a) A formal complaint will be lodged with Microgaming with the request that the licensee be held accountable for the affiliate agreements made by the Grand Prive/Villa Fortuna Group.

b) A formal complaint and request for moderation will be filed with eCogra.

c) A formal complaint will be filed with the appropriate licensing authorities for the Grand Prive/Villa Fortuna casinos.

d) Press releases along with affiliate and player warnings will be issued to ensure everyone is aware of the now illegal and predatory practices of Grand Prive/Villa Fortuna.

e) Villa Fortuna will be banned from certification at CAP, appearances or entry at all CAP Events will be prohibitted. Advertising within CAP Magazine will be prohibitted.

f) We include full articles in CAP Magazine and complete reports of this incident on CAP TV and CAP and PAP Radio.

As stated previously, we sincerely hope that all this can be avoided and that Villa Fortuna/Grand Prive do the fair and honorable thing and respect the hard work and dedicatioon of their affiliate partners.

Danesh there is time to stop this ticking time bomb, lets do it now please.

Dominique · #2 (**permalink**) 12-02-2008, 10:22 AM

Meanwhile, I have rogued them here: http://www.gamesandcasino.com/blackl...lacklisted.htm

I will exchange links with all pages also devoted to blacklisting them.

bonustreak · #3 (**permalink**) 12-02-2008, 10:50 AM

EXCELLENT news Professor!! This is what I am talking about, someone coming to the aid of us affiliates! The other thing that bothers me is non of the other MG programs are saying a word about this, that scares me and makes me think they are sitting on the side line watching to see if this crap is tolerated so they can be next in line to screw the affiliates! I would think that would never happen but we are witnessing something we never thought we would ever see happen with a Microgaming group.

I understand times are rough and corners need to be cut but you don't cut the throats of the partners that have feed you for years! You consolidate your brands, shut down or sell a few casinos, you never break a contract to your partners!

Dom we are adding your link if you can add our link it is appreciated

http://www.microgamingbonusstreak.co...acklisted.html

GamTrak · #4 (**permalink**) 12-02-2008, 11:08 AM

Thanks Professor!

I've created my page and will put the links to other pages in later today.

http://gamtrak.com/GrandPriveBlacklisted.html

Dominique · #5 (**permalink**) 12-02-2008, 11:13 AM

Your link will go up this morning.

pjotter · #6 (**permalink**) 12-02-2008, 11:24 AM

Great. Thanks for the help CAP!

I'll be working on a blacklist page too.

bonustreak · #7 (**permalink**) 12-02-2008, 11:33 AM

Robin your like will be up in about 40 mins

maxo · #8 (**permalink**) 12-02-2008, 11:41 AM

I was also mark them on:
http://www.gambling.li/owner/grand-p...vestments.html

And will add all your links too.

bonustreak · #9 (**permalink**) 12-02-2008, 06:42 PM

Max we have added your link now if you can do the same thanks

splinterfree · #10 (**permalink**) 12-02-2008, 07:32 PM

Applause to CAP for this bold move!

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