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    Default Acorn's Vegas Office Gets Raided

    Well, once again, it seems that Acorn is at it for voter fraud. They once again got raided in Las Vegas.
    ACORN spokesman Charles Jackson confirmed the group's Nevada office was raided.

    It's not the first time ACORN's been under investigation for irregularities in registration records.

    In 2006, ACORN committed what the Washington Secretary of State Sam Reed called the "worse case of election fraud" in the state's history.

    In the case, ACORN submitted just over 1,800 new voter registration forms, but there was a problem. The names were made up -- all but six of the 1,800 submissions were fakes.

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    Well i'm not going to defend Acorn, but this great conspiracy you're exposing is pretty straight forward, they hire people to register voters and pay them by the registration. This of course encourages their "staff" to submit registrations, not to actually register voters. How they manage to hire people and pay them to do this is a good question, but i'm sure their lawyers feel they have a loophole.

    Tonite my friend told me this:
    He was approached by someone, trying to register voters: "Who are you voting for!?", my friend said "Obama", had clipboard shoved in his face "Fill this out to support Obama". My friend says "I'm already registered to vote already and you can't ask people who they're voting for as a registrar, it's against the law". The guy says "oh, yeah, sorry" and continued on his way. Maybe an Acorn guy maybe a different group.

    Back in the 1980's i became a registrar as part of a U of Mich. student government project. I wanted to help make sure democrats were able to register (i politely registered republicans and reminded them to remember to vote too). We were told by the city clerk that we couldn't register people at political events, which i didn't. I registered people at dorm cafeteria, or went at the request of city clerk to home of disabled/elderly couple who wished to register. Just the reason clerks setup deputy registrars. The College Republicans on the other hand held a rally to register all those who came out to support republican cause, totally illegal.

    My point is that people from many sides, with a number of agendas mess around with voter registrations and harrassment at polling places. So finding out that Acorn is a questionable group due to their agenda, tactics and abilities, is good to know, but it's meaningless with respect to the election. Just like the list of all the "terrorist" groups supporting Obama, I can make a list of every Nazi/Klanman who's name i can find and am pretty sure they're all McCain supporters. I can add the various "militia members", etc. and get just as offensive of a list.

    In this case the crap is acorn and it lands on the liberal side of the balance sheet. Tomorrows crap will land on the other side, and so on...
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    This is very disturbing indeed, but does happen sadly enough. It happens on both sides of the isle so IMO it zeros out the point.

    While I'm interested in stopping things like what acorn is doing I'm also interested in exposing those that actually profited personally like the CEO's at AIG that has contributed to our financial crisis in an ugly manner.

    I'm looking at a report where five (5) CEO got over $400 million dollars in bonuses while the company was declaring record losses three quarters in a row. Those folks need to be in jail!

    It's reported that AIG spend over $400,000 of our bailout money at a resort ONE WEEK after they got it. Now that is a CRIME, shame and disgrace to the American people!
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    It's reported that AIG spend over $400,000 of our bailout money at a resort ONE WEEK after they got it. Now that is a CRIME, shame and disgrace to the American people!
    We don't get government aid, but after spending a week partying at an industry event, i hate to see stuff like this being dragged out as the whipping boy. What if they eliminate the deduction for entertainment, trade shows to stop this stuff?

    Someone call our lobbyists.

    With AIG you have to ask, what was the event, who was there, etc. At some level these devastated companies need to retain most employees for near term at the very least. If they treat everyone left behind as criminals, people will leave and the government will have paid $85 billion for 80% of AIG (via warrants) and it will collapse for lack of talent. We want it to function, clean itself up and cut the cost of doing all this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmCan View Post
    We don't get government aid, but after spending a week partying at an industry event, i hate to see stuff like this being dragged out as the whipping boy. What if they eliminate the deduction for entertainment, trade shows to stop this stuff?
    With all due respect Fred, if the goverment gave online gambling conferences a bail out then I could see your point, but I"m sorry I can't.

    A company with shareholders and workers that lost their jobs while CEO's got millions is not a company that should use tax payer money for this type of stuff.

    Did you watch the Congressional hearings for AIG today?
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