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    Quote Originally Posted by Magent View Post
    Yes you are absolutely right and I do apologize. I just have a bad grudge against Cpays and their plans as I, like alot of others have been tricked and lost a portion of my livelyhood because of them.
    I can certainly understand that.

    I'm currently waiting to see if one of the reps I work with at another brand that deals with CPays can get the $12,000.00 that CPays has owed me since 2006.

    I'm never going to let that subject drop, but we can't stoop to thier level trying to get the facts out because I believe them to be crooks.
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    CPays is NOT certified here for a long list of very valid reasons, but lets not get side tracked with them. I am worried Webroute is catching the stick because of CPays and as far as I know they are seperate entities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Professor View Post
    CPays is NOT certified here for a long list of very valid reasons, but lets not get side tracked with them. I am worried Webroute is catching the stick because of CPays and as far as I know they are seperate entities.
    At the next cap, lets meet face to face and I will give you the undeniable truth that they are the one and same. Believe me, if I wasn´t completely sure I would not accuse anyone of anything. As it is I am 250% sure of this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magent View Post
    Mitchell, I know you get these automatic reminders if someone has posted in a thread you have posted in, so stop trying to avoid me and please answer the question.

    Is Betmostpoker one of your brands?
    Hi Magent

    Sorry i havent got back to you - its been a busy couple of weeks, and what with one thing and another I havent actually been in the office as much (I am currently at the London A4UExpo for a couple of days, and before this I was on paternity leave - yes I have become a dad!).

    As to your question - I have to say that I dont know, but will find out and come back to you.

    Also, I havent been avoiding you - I dont seem to be getting the updates on this thread for some reason otherwise I would have dealt with it earlier. it makes no sense to avoid you - you arent going to go away are you
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    Well this might make things more clear. Cpays, WeIbroute Services and William Hill are all merging into one gaming group. I just received this:

    All Affiliates

    A Very Big Welcome to Europe’s Leading Online Gaming and Sports Betting Group.

    You will have read in the news this morning of one of the largest mergers in online gaming and sports betting history. We are very excited to inform you that with this merger the affiliate programs of William Hill, Cpays, & Webroute Affiliates will together form one of the largest affiliate networks in the world, working with Europe’s leading online gaming and sports betting company.

    During 2009 we will be joining together to form a new super affiliate program. The aim of this new program will be to provide our affiliates with the very best service and opportunities in the industry –

    · Our Group “Affiliate Guarantee” ensures that you will continue to receive lifetime revenue share or CPA’s on all your existing and new players referred, no matter which affiliate program you are with

    · You will be able to promote casinos, poker, bingo, sportsbook, games and skill games all using the same affiliate program

    · Our players will be using some of the very best software and systems in the market such as Playtech Casino, I-Poker, Virtue Fusion & Playtech Bingo and the Orbis sports betting platform

    · A true global reach using one affiliate program with a large presence in all major markets except for the USA

    · An affiliate senior management team with some of the very best people from the industry

    · A brand new affiliate management software which we believe will be the best anywhere in the market

    These changes will start early next year and we should be fully integrated by the end of 2009

    As we said above, your existing affiliated players and revenue along with any new players will continue to be paid to you in the normal way; so the only changes that you will see are additional services and we hope additional players and revenue that we can both share in.

    We will keep you informed over the next few months of developments and in the meantime don’t hesitate to contact your existing affiliate manager should you have any queries or questions.


    Yours sincerely
    Henry Birch
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    Quote Originally Posted by syntek View Post
    the affiliate programs of William Hill, Cpays, & Webroute Affiliates will together form one of the largest affiliate networks in the world, working with Europe’s leading online gaming and sports betting company.
    Great! I hope they can get CPays to pay the $12,700 that they owe me and have been promising to pay since 2006.
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    haha - The first thing I thought when I received this is... Magent was right!

    Crazy industry this is.. Why people like to hide stuff so much is beyond me.
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    Maybe he was, but I'm not going to hold it against TheBoyMitchell, because he is a great AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kwblue View Post
    haha - The first thing I thought when I received this is... Magent was right!

    Crazy industry this is.. Why people like to hide stuff so much is beyond me.
    Nah Magent isnt right. Cpays and Webroute are two separate companies. Always have been. They are (or were) owned by the same guy however, in the same way that many business people own more than one company and run them as separate entities.

    So, sadly magent was incorrect, which is suprising as he was ex staff

    Oh, how long have I waited to say that!

    Still, onwards and upwards. I cant wait for the new platform, and the new brands to get running so that i can AM even more of you!
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    LOL, you sure are starting on the wrong foot with some affiliates, honesty seems to be in very high regards round here

    Claiming that CPAYS and WS are different companies owned by the same person makes WS somehow different from CPAYS is plain wrong. Just because they are different entities doesn't mean they won't be run the same way, on the contrary, chances are they'll be exactly the same and I pitty the fools at Will Hill.

    I should probably disclose that I did good money with CPAYS back in the days, but ONLY because I had a great aff manager, who spared me the shananegans most affiliates, it seems, were unfortunate to enjoy. But CPAYS don't keep aff managers who work for the affiliate as much as they do for the company and he's long gone (and so was I).

    If you think you are a good aff manager who is willing to go out of his way for the affiliates, I advise you to start writing your CV right away.
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